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Old 05-19-2013, 08:39 PM   #1
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KTM 1190 Adventure R: Anatomy of an Off-Road Superbike

KTM 1190 Adventure R: Anatomy of an Off-Road Superbike


There was a time (doesn't seem like that long ago) when 150hp got you a ticket to the Superbikes. I'll admit that when I first heard of KTM's plans to build a genuine adventure bike with those kinds of specs that it seemed absurd.

After owning one for a couple of weeks it still does! Sure is fun though.

So, in the interests of documenting my learning curve on the orange bottle rocket, I am firing up a thread for all the things I learn along the way. As a dirt rider, my interest is in making the best off road explorer I can. Most likely that will mean that much of this bikes potential as a tar burner is wasted on me but I liked the bike so I bought one.

The base bike seems like a pretty comprehensive package, so the plan is to get things sorted without upping the price tag too much. Rather, I am hoping to tidy up a few area's and just ride the thing.

To places like this.





Tyres

An adventure bike with slick tyres just doesn't seem right so the first thing to go were the standard donuts. I looked around at Tubeless options and they are pretty limited in the front at this stage. According to their website, Pirelli make a Tubeless version of the Scorpion Rally but the Australian importer didn't know anything about it when we rang. So a tube went into the front rim (after unbolting the tyre pressure sensor) and a Tube Type Pirelli Scorpion Rally was fitted to give some extra bite. I was really impressed with these tyres on my previous bike and they are DOT approved to keep the constabulary at bay.

The only drawback to going this way is that the Tyre Pressure alarm pops up at me every time I turn the bike on but it disappears with the press of a button.


The rear was easier. A Tubeless Mitas E-09 Dakar was spooned onto the rim ready to go. Rear tyres are likely to have a limited lifespan on the big KTM so I guess if you try one and don't like it, there will be an opportunity for another in a short period of time. I like the Mitas though so I am thinking about buying them in multiples.


Fitting a tube to the rear would be a bit trickier than the front as the valve stem hole is offset but I think it could be done if you needed to go that way. I like the security of carrying spare tubes front and rear in combination with a tubeless repair kit and some patches.

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Old 05-19-2013, 08:42 PM   #2
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Bars


The bars' on the 1190 feel a bit narrow for my liking so I picked up a set of Pro Tapers (KX High bend) and bolted them on. These are about 20mm wider and a fair bit higher. For purely off-road use I would be tempted to go higher still but as it is, the riding position feels like a good compromise between sitting and standing. The grip on the clutch side is bonded so if you are going to switch bars a new set of grips will be necessary.

Barkbusters


I had a set of VPS Barkbusters in the shed so they got bolted up using the new BTC-06 clamp system. This is a great setup, fitting a wider range of bars and the offset gives more mounting options and a clearance for cables and brake hoses.


Mirrors


The standard mirrors mount via the brake and clutch perches. That's not unusual but it does make them a little fragile in the case of a decent crash (or even just clipping undergrowth at speed) so I raided my shed supplies again and fitted a set of Ned's Double Take Mirrors. They tuck in nicely and should bend instead of breaking.


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Old 05-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #3
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All I get are red x's for your pictures.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:26 AM   #4
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:50 AM   #5
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Love the photos , very nice.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:38 AM   #6
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I can see the pics now. Sweet pics!
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:43 AM   #7
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1190 Adventure Pics

Absolutely amazing pictures. One of a kind as far as we are concerned. Amazing colors and compositions. Well done.
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Bars


The bars' on the 1190 feel a bit narrow for my liking so I picked up a set of Pro Tapers (KX High bend) and bolted them on. These are about 20mm wider and a fair bit higher. For purely off-road use I would be tempted to go higher still but as it is, the riding position feels like a good compromise between sitting and standing. The grip on the clutch side is bonded so if you are going to switch bars a new set of grips will be necessary.

Barkbusters


I had a set of VPS Barkbusters in the shed so they got bolted up using the new BTC-06 clamp system. This is a great setup, fitting a wider range of bars and the offset gives more mounting options and a clearance for cables and brake hoses.


Mirrors


The standard mirrors mount via the brake and clutch perches. That's not unusual but it does make them a little fragile in the case of a decent crash (or even just clipping undergrowth at speed) so I raided my shed supplies again and fitted a set of Ned's Double Take Mirrors. They tuck in nicely and should bend instead of breaking.

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:17 AM   #8
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I went and sat on the 1190 adv, but couldn't find a place who had a ADV R in stock or even an ADV as a demo.. If anyone knows of one in Melb, plz let me know..

Btw, Those pics are f***in awesome! They are 1000x better than the pics from the KTM website.. I hope u dont mind but these are now wallpaper on my work pc

So my question is, how easy does the front come up under power? I missed that on the BMW's, they are too refined/not enough power

How would you go on single tracks on this? I got a F650/800gs through a fair bit.. so im wondering if the little extra weight on this would be too much of a handful on sloppy mud tracks up/down?
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So my question is, how easy does the front come up under power? I missed that on the BMW's, they are too refined/not enough power

How would you go on single tracks on this? I got a F650/800gs through a fair bit.. so im wondering if the little extra weight on this would be too much of a handful on sloppy mud tracks up/down?
Breaking a tailbone (doing stupid things in my formative years) has left me a bit gunshy when it comes to wheelie's. The traction control tends to keep things under control most of the time but switch it off and I think you will quickly find the front end elevation you are after .

As for muddy single track, I don't know that any of the big bikes are ideally suited to it but given the choice, I would readily take the 1190 over an F800GS for the rougher, tighter stuff. The bike just feels more dirt orientated to me, the suspension works better over rough ground, it tracks nicely and the power delivery in off-road mode is very tractable. Unless you are a very talented rider though, a well set up DR650 is still going to make life easier in really snotty stuff though?
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Absolutely amazing pictures. One of a kind as far as we are concerned. Amazing colors and compositions. Well done.
Thanks. Good to hear you are enjoying them.

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- awesome pics; you must be doing this for a living... .
Anyway, keep us posted 'up-here'
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- awesome pics; you must be doing this for a living... .
Anyway, keep us posted 'up-here'
Burren Rider ( Danny ) is an accountant , but takes awesome pics , his pics are better than plenty of pro photographers photos in my opinion .



Keep the thoughts and pics comin Danny !
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Well well well, I heard a rumour last night that you'd picked up one of these beasts Danny! Great info and pics mate
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Well well well, I heard a rumour last night that you'd picked up one of these beasts Danny! Great info and pics mate
G'Day Bill,

It was a hard decision to part with the Tiger. I put it on the Fleamarket to test the waters and in no time it was gone. I had some serious sellers remorse for a while but it was going to a good home and I consoled myself with that.

Good fun playing with a new toy though.
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Keep the thoughts and pics comin Danny !
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I nearly ended up with a Super Enduro not too long ago. Found one going really cheap in Brisbane but I dug a bit deeper and there was a bit more to the story.
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