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Old 06-25-2013, 04:14 PM   #1
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Question Winter riding gear

After having ridden 3 Dakars and just recently the Ruta 40, I want some advice on Winter riding gear. In ALL the Dakars we have crossed the Andes Mountains in liason, and I have progressively had more layers and equipment, and still been cold. This last race Ruta 40, I have never felt so cold in my life, and I had 8 layers: Alpinestars Winter Tech undergear, Alpinestars compression jersey, Alpinestars MX jersey, Nike gym jacket, Rally Jacket, Thor casual wear Winter jacket, Alpinestars Quick seal out rain jacket, and Alpinestars mud jacket.

So what has to be worn to be warm in extreme temperaturas??

All advice is welcome!
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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Nothing better than electric gear! Unfortunately most rally bikes don't have the juice to support it.

I have found nothing beats down for extreme temperatures. Layers are important but how layered is more critical. I have more experience with cold weather camping than riding but layering is layering. The trick is to let your body heat up the inner insulation layer and have an outer layer to keep the elements out. My guess is you had tons of layers but none that really are designed to keep warmth generated by your body in. A single wicking base layer, maybe a thin micro fleece then a down jacket and a windproof or waterproof shell. Too many layers between you and the down and it will never heat up properly. Also the outer shell can't compress the down layer to much or it won't work. I use a one size larger rally jacket in the winter.

Try the under gear, a down jacket, loose rally jacket and a waterproof Gortex outer shell. The shell should be loose fitting but also seal around the waist and wrists.

Let us know what you come up with and how it works. Good luck!
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #3
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I took a 2500 mile trip from Boise, Idaho, to Chicago in October the other year and rode in all kinds of weather including snow and was caught by a hurricane blowing itself out across the country. That winter I rode the dirt bike around the city through the whole winter... just to do it.

The right layers is key. Synthetic/wool base layer to get moisture away from the skin that also helps with insulation (meaning not the thinnest). A thin secondary layer that stops wind and insulates. Lastly a jacket with a liner that is water resistant and windproof while the outer cordura type layer to take the punishment.

Packing an emergency rain jacket may be a good idea for extra help in breaking the wind in the most extreme conditions (high speed and high winds).

Try experimenting before the next race to know what works best for you.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:11 PM   #4
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bumb up that alternator and use an electric jacket!!!
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:30 PM   #5
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You can get heated underjackets, gloves, etc that run on batteries. Might work well for liaisons...
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:53 AM   #6
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Thanks for the replies and advice!
I think heated gear is the way to go and what I will use for next Dakar on the cold liasons.....
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:18 PM   #7
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:29 PM   #8
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heated jacket

Try one of these. They seem to be cheap enough here in OZ and come with there own power source. Planning on adapting one to my rig.
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heated jacket

There is a heated jacket brand that I sell at my shop that is lithium battery operated. There company name is Mobile Warming. They are water resistant and on a medium setting you should be able to get a 8 hour usable heat.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:12 AM   #10
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I used a 5$ rain jacket from big five sports store in the states until it ripped apart at 120mph after two seasons of consistent use. In the below freezing temps there was nothing else that kept the wind and water off me. The only drawback was that is wasn't breathable. I learned to vent appropriately though.
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:40 AM   #11
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Thumb Columbia Omni Heat Base Layer

I have just tried the Columbia Omni -Heat base layer Top and found it to be quite good for riding at temps down to 4degrees C .
I am going to try the Columbia Omni -Heat Hiker Socks next ride .

Electric is the way to go when you have enough money , the Tour Master heated gear looks to be a good quality at a fair price .
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