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Old 06-25-2013, 10:59 PM   #1
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I have noticed an odd trend of late on my local CL. The ad usually goes something like this.

2005 Yamaha R6 Been down and needs new fairings and headlight. Parts are available on ebay for $1000 10000 miles, runs great, blah blah blah $3500.

In my area an 05 R6 goes for about $4000. So if I get this one and want to fix it, by the time I'm done I'm going to be at the exact same price as if I bought one in good condition in the first place. Just doesn't compute to me.

Even if they are going to make a streetfighter out of it a $500 dollar savings doesn't seem like enough of a bargain to warrant buying the bike over a known good one.

I would much rather go to an insurance auction and get one for say $1200 to turn into a fighter.

Anyone else notice this or can point out the flaw in my logic to me?
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:48 AM   #2
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The flaw in logic is that you dont have the self interest of the seller.

Just send him a lowball, to annoy them if nothing else.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:02 AM   #3
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I hate "runs great, just needs new battery and carbs cleaned." Well, put in a battery and clean the carbs, you lazy fuck.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:21 AM   #4
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I hate "runs great, just needs new battery and carbs cleaned." Well, put in a battery and clean the carbs, you lazy fuck.
Agree 100%!
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:16 AM   #5
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Amen to that!!!! Even saw that posted on a bike from a dealership (car dealership that got a bike on trade but a dealership none the less)

You would think they could grasp the concept of spending a couple hundred to get it sorted and then being able to ask quite a bit more.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:39 AM   #6
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Amen to that!!!! Even saw that posted on a bike from a dealership (car dealership that got a bike on trade but a dealership none the less)

You would think they could grasp the concept of spending a couple hundred to get it sorted and then being able to ask quite a bit more.
There was a local Honda dealer that had one of those on a Honda- an absolutely cherry '80s VFR that had been left to sit too long.

Probably the bike will never be worth the labor $$$ it'd take for the dealer to make it right.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:08 PM   #7
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Amen to that!!!! Even saw that posted on a bike from a dealership (car dealership that got a bike on trade but a dealership none the less)

You would think they could grasp the concept of spending a couple hundred to get it sorted and then being able to ask quite a bit more.
A dealership has to PAY their employees to work on a bike, and could be that their mechanic doesn't know a damned thing about bikes. Or carbs. OTOH lots of guys here on ADV seem to value their time at zero. So if the dealership decides to give a try for letting it go cheap without investing the paid labor as well as the parts, I don't hold it against a car dealer to give it a try selling a bike that needs work "as-is".

Same as any other seller who doesn't do their own work for free. For them fixing up the bike isn't just the cost of parts, it's also the labor. But they might find a buyer who regards the cost as parts only. Or not. And if not, then it won't sell. And if it doesn't, it's not my problem, not a fuck is given.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:36 AM   #8
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I hate "runs great, just needs new battery and carbs cleaned." Well, put in a battery and clean the carbs, you lazy fuck.

One has to ask if the carbs need to be cleaned how could it run great???
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:20 PM   #9
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One has to ask if the carbs need to be cleaned how could it run great???
It's more of a "runs great... in theory" kind of situation.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:29 AM   #10
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Excellant!

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Old 07-06-2013, 03:41 AM   #11
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I hate "runs great, just needs new battery and carbs cleaned." Well, put in a battery and clean the carbs, you lazy fuck.
I actually laughed so hard at this I farted.

Yes I do realize this is a waste of a first post.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:27 PM   #12
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didn't you know that craigs list adds have nothing to due with the kbb price of the bike.
i am always amazed the the sellers don't realize their bike won't sell for more than $1000+
above kbb. i have seen bikes on cl for over a year.


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Old 07-01-2013, 04:04 PM   #13
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didn't you know that craigs list adds have nothing to due with the kbb price of the bike.
i am always amazed the the sellers don't realize their bike won't sell for more than $1000+
above kbb. i have seen bikes on cl for over a year.
kbb doesn't set prices for motorcycles. A motorcycle is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Don't like the asking price? Make a reasonable offer! The SELLER can then say YES or NO. If it is NO then your reasonable offer is NOT reasonable to the seller. Step up or move on.
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I have noticed an odd trend of late on my local CL. The ad usually goes something like this.

2005 Yamaha R6 Been down and needs new fairings and headlight. Parts are available on ebay for $1000 10000 miles, runs great, blah blah blah $3500.

In my area an 05 R6 goes for about $4000. So if I get this one and want to fix it, by the time I'm done I'm going to be at the exact same price as if I bought one in good condition in the first place. Just doesn't compute to me.

Even if they are going to make a streetfighter out of it a $500 dollar savings doesn't seem like enough of a bargain to warrant buying the bike over a known good one.

I would much rather go to an insurance auction and get one for say $1200 to turn into a fighter.

Anyone else notice this or can point out the flaw in my logic to me?
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:44 PM   #15
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I have noticed an odd trend of late on my local CL. The ad usually goes something like this.

2005 Yamaha R6 Been down and needs new fairings and headlight. Parts are available on ebay for $1000 10000 miles, runs great, blah blah blah $3500.

In my area an 05 R6 goes for about $4000. So if I get this one and want to fix it, by the time I'm done I'm going to be at the exact same price as if I bought one in good condition in the first place. Just doesn't compute to me.

Even if they are going to make a streetfighter out of it a $500 dollar savings doesn't seem like enough of a bargain to warrant buying the bike over a known good one.

I would much rather go to an insurance auction and get one for say $1200 to turn into a fighter.

Anyone else notice this or can point out the flaw in my logic to me?
How's that different from any other used vehicle ad? It isn't up to the seller to determine what constitutes value to you or to anybody else. Don't like it, don't inquire. So simple.
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