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Old 07-12-2013, 01:36 AM   #1
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Who prefers the AC over the LC & why?

The other day I "briefly" test rode the new LC GS. I liked it, but I also like the previous AC version it replaced. Without going into what I liked/didn't like, Id like to hear from other GS riders regarding there feelings about the two?
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:07 AM   #2
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The other day I "briefly" test rode the new LC GS. I liked it, but I also like the previous AC version it replaced. Without going into what I liked/didn't like, Id like to hear from other GS riders regarding there feelings about the two?
My LC is my fourth GS 1200. I liked it best from all the previous ones:

2005 standard, 2006 premium, 2011 premium

The main reasons, in no particular order, are:

Stronger engine
Greater confort
Better windshield protection
Easier adjustment on windshield height
Better instrument cluster
Better paint finish
Lighter feeling
Riding modes
Better ESA
Better lights (LED)
Nicer styling
Better luggage and better way of attachment to the bike
Better gas mileage
Easier seat adjustment and ease of fitting it to the bike
Cruise control
Switch cluster
GPS mount
Lighter clutch pull

What I prefere on the previous model:

Clutch
Original turn signal switch
Engine sound
Prooven reliability
Greater under seat space for tools
Greater variety of non original accessories
Side stand position

Definetelly would not go back !

Andre
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:43 AM   #3
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My LC is my fourth GS 1200. I liked it best from all the previous ones:

2005 standard, 2006 premium, 2011 premium

The main reasons, in no particular order, are:

Stronger engine
Greater confort
Better windshield protection
Easier adjustment on windshield height
Better instrument cluster
Better paint finish
Lighter feeling
Riding modes
Better ESA
Better lights (LED)
Nicer styling
Better luggage and better way of attachment to the bike
Better gas mileage
Easier seat adjustment and ease of fitting it to the bike
Cruise control
Switch cluster
GPS mount
Lighter clutch pull

What I prefere on the previous model:

Clutch
Original turn signal switch
Engine sound
Prooven reliability
Greater under seat space for tools
Greater variety of non original accessories
Side stand position

Definetelly would not go back !

Andre
Very well done biggest complaint for me is the turn signals
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:09 AM   #4
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I agree with most everything you said, and currently think I'll jump on the bandwagon with an LC GSA in 2014/15-ish.

Except for this:
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Better instrument cluster
It seems like every year the GS cluster gets worse, and with the 2013, they really pulled out all the stops. At the current rate of "improvement", by 2025, the tach will have become so small as to form a singularity, sucking in the Earth, moon, and most of the adjacent planets, ending all life as we know it.

They seriously need to abandon the analog speedo and go to the near universal standard of digital speedo, analog tach.
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Old 07-13-2013, 03:39 PM   #5
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I agree with most everything you said, and currently think I'll jump on the bandwagon with an LC GSA in 2014/15-ish.

Except for this:


It seems like every year the GS cluster gets worse, and with the 2013, they really pulled out all the stops. At the current rate of "improvement", by 2025, the tach will have become so small as to form a singularity, sucking in the Earth, moon, and most of the adjacent planets, ending all life as we know it.

They seriously need to abandon the analog speedo and go to the near universal standard of digital speedo, analog tach.
Do the instrument clusters on the new LC machines 'melt' like the old ones did? I have had mine replaced on my 2010 camhead twice under warranty because the windshield can magnify the suns rays enough to melt the plastic bezel. NOT happy with that particular piece of German engineering!!
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:39 PM   #6
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the new LC GS do not look like an adventure bike , it looks/is a road bike trying to be a dirt bike .

The air cooled GS's look like muscular dirt bike ,which looks way cooler IMO
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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The air cooled GS's look like muscular dirt bike ,which looks way cooler IMO
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:05 PM   #8
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the new LC GS do not look like an adventure bike , it looks/is a road bike trying to be a dirt bike .

The air cooled GS's look like muscular dirt bike ,which looks way cooler IMO
Yeah right...

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Old 07-14-2013, 03:41 PM   #9
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I will take the '95 oil cooler I have although I like any of them.
  1. I was able to pay cash for it;
  2. It is not losing value anywhere near as fast as a new bike;
  3. I can do much of the work on it myself.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:46 AM   #10
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I will take the '95 oil cooler I have although I like any of them.
  1. I was able to pay cash for it;
  2. It is not losing value anywhere near as fast as a new bike;
  3. I can do much of the work on it myself.
Valid points for a 95.
It is just weird when it comes from people with a 15 years later model.

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Just a guess here but I doubt if he's making payments and plans on keeping that bike for quite a while.

Does the phrase "ride it like a rental" sound familiar to anyone?
True he is not.
Still, does show some things.
It does say to you "you can do one fifth of that, don't worry that much about it".
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:23 AM   #11
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The other day I "briefly" test rode the new LC GS. I liked it, but I also like the previous AC version it replaced. Without going into what I liked/didn't like, Id like to hear from other GS riders regarding there feelings about the two?
Have you watched the Touratech video where they compare the 2013 GSA and the 2013 LC? I went with the GSA for the low end grunt off road. The LC has many advantages over the GSA in the bells and whistles department but being able to control it off road was a concern of mine. I think the twitcher throttle control would be a real problem for me bouncing around trying to go slow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMaGYBbhF70
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:49 AM   #12
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I wanted the GS because it was simple to operate and maintain. IMO the LC doesn't fit into the "simple" category. The more electronics the more things fail. Wait until you have to pay for parts on the LC. I also like having the right oil to do the right job. When it comes to performance, the real difference is the rider not AC or LC.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:08 AM   #13
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I prefer my AC for one reason. It's payed for.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:21 AM   #14
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I love AC. I am a naturally hot person by nature.

Wait, AC. is that a NEW name for AirHead, or OilHead, or Hexhead or Camhead?

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:33 AM   #15
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I'm calling mine an Oily Cam Head and I love it

No water for me thanks, no radiators to crush, no hoses to blow, no water pump to leak or fail.

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I love AC. I am a naturally hot person by nature.

Wait, AC. is that a NEW name for AirHead, or OilHead, or Hexhead or Camhead?

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