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Old 08-26-2013, 04:36 AM   #1
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Heya!

When riding 2-up, with panniers on, the dampening system seam insufficient; the centerstand scratches the asphalt sometimes when cornering. No, it's not because we're too fat! :) 80+60+20 kg, EDS in 2+p mode.
Did anyone else experience center-stand scratching?

A few months ago I had a EDS-failure message which disappeared without corrections. Could be linked I guess?


On a side note, the centerstand is full of other scratches and dents from front-wheel stone spray. All these scratches tend to rust. The center stand all together gives a really poor impression...
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:00 AM   #2
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Heya!

When riding 2-up, with panniers on, the dampening system seam insufficient; the centerstand scratches the asphalt sometimes when cornering. No, it's not because we're too fat! :) 80+60+20 kg, EDS in 2+p mode.
Did anyone else experience center-stand scratching?

A few months ago I had a EDS-failure message which disappeared without corrections. Could be linked I guess?


On a side note, the centerstand is full of other scratches and dents from front-wheel stone spray. All these scratches tend to rust. The center stand all together gives a really poor impression...
as soon as you press the 2-UP button the bike is rising quite alot. So i would check this first. put it up to 1 person first then sit on it adjust it to 2-UP+lagguage you must feel the bike really rises if not your system doesnt work ! if does which mine work, i never have that problem even with comfort setting the bike got really good ground clearence.

Hope this helps !
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:37 PM   #3
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I've scraped my centre stand a few times now, i ride in sport mode and always set on single with luggage and I still scrape every now and then, worse if its in comfort mode, I weigh 62kg. I think it comes down to how hard its ridden. +1 on checking it does actually rise up when you change the setting, it may not be working.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:45 AM   #4
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That's why I'm reinforce the suspension!. (And I have the R model) I heard a guy who had a big damage on the bike when the knnoby tire hit badly the the upper part of the bike

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Old 08-27-2013, 03:10 AM   #5
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I think if I really push it , the stand might be touch the floor but again I don't ride this bike like fireblade :) it has got limits yes it has got power but it isn't a sports bike:) it won't make you put your knee down.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:15 AM   #6
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Tried the 1-up to 2-up raisal test you asked for. It raises somewhat at least, I have nothing to compare to but something happens.
I don't see any difference when changing EDS between COMFORT/STREET/SPORT though.

With 150 hp and a 170/60ZR17 tire on the back wheel, I'd be amazed if it's not made for wearing my kneeplates out. Scraping the center stand is however FAR from scraping my knee!
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:40 PM   #7
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I think if I really push it , the stand might be touch the floor but again I don't ride this bike like fireblade :) it has got limits yes it has got power but it isn't a sports bike:) it won't make you put your knee down.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:20 AM   #8
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Tan, you just made my day. Sounds like you live in a fish bowl! Enjoy your adventure down to Starbucks in your goretex outfit.

PS! Don't forget the makeup :-)
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:54 PM   #9
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Tan, you just made my day. Sounds like you live in a fish bowl! Enjoy your adventure down to Starbucks in your goretex outfit.

PS! Don't forget the makeup :-)
Mate why such loser comment ? Why can't you handle that the statement I just write is completely true!

Why is that I live in a fish bowl! don't make me laugh you are ridiculous. If you got nothing to say just shut up, if you got something to say just write it up like a man. Do you even got a bike because I think you don't have a clue about leathers and textile. I can teach you free!

Fucking loser
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:00 PM   #10
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Tan, you are the man! Lol
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:03 PM   #11
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Tan, you are the man! Lol
Your comments are irritating and builling me.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:16 AM   #12
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Just checked my centre stand bolts, both were loose and the same on a mates 1190 R. Could have some thing to do with the scrapping ?
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:21 AM   #13
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I've had my centre stand drag on the ground while two-up and neither of us are heavy (me 73Kg wife 7 stone).

I've also had the rear bottom out while two-up which surprised me. So I did some checks.

I have an 1190 roadie without ESD (manual suspension), this has a different rear spring rate to the ESD models. From the info in the hand-book I measured the static and rider sag with, (from memory) the spring pre-load set to 4 turns. After careful measurement I arrived at 9 turns on the pre-load adjuster to get the correct static sag. This also gave the correct rider sag as per the hand-book.

Has anybody else tried setting the sag as per the hand-book?

To achieve the correct sag with the correct number of turns on the pre-load adjuster would require a 2.5mm spacer under the spring.

My seat of the pants feeling is that the rear spring is a little soft. Has anybody else a view on this?

I know the ESD has a different spring rate to the manual version and I think it's softer so I can't try one of these.

As an aside I have shortened the centre stand to make it easier to use, especially when loaded.

Interested to hear other views and of course a soft spring will contribute to stand dragging.
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