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Old 10-15-2013, 03:34 PM   #1
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Concerns with Influencing Your Kids towards Street Bikes?

Does anyone who rides street have any concerns about influencing your kids in that direction? I ride both dirt and street. And, my kids have grown up riding dirt. I go back and forth on this issue.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:38 PM   #2
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Does anyone who rides street have any concerns about influencing your kids in that direction? I ride both dirt and street. And, my kids have grown up riding dirt. I go back and forth on this issue.
This is going to sound snarky, but we're not talking doing drugs or joining the tea party here (oh behave ). Why would a migration to street riding be a bad thing for anyone? Or a migration to dirt for that matter. They ride, they enjoy...all good, right?
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:46 PM   #3
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This is going to sound snarky, but we're not talking doing drugs or joining the tea party here (oh behave ). Why would a migration to street riding be a bad thing for anyone? Or a migration to dirt for that matter. They ride, they enjoy...all good, right?
Nwpa - to be clear, I love motorcycles and most of the people I know who are involved with them. That's not the issue. Do you have kids? Have you ever experienced the loss of close loved one from a motor vehicles crash? Have you ever looked at the street bike statistics for young adults? If you are not a Dad, then I don't think it's possible for you to understand this concern
I never would have understood.

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:02 PM   #4
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In the Hurt study, riders who grew up riding dirt were statistically under-represented in crash statistics.

I'd say to get them into an ERC and have them read some instructional books before taking them out on the road with you. If you feel they're vigilant enough, and skilled enough, turn them loose with their streetbikes. When they turn 16 or 18 or whatever, they're going to go off on their own and do their own thing anyway. That's what young ADULTS are supposed to do.

Teach them to wear the gear, teach them to keep aware and keep their head in the ride whenever they're on a moto, and that if they want to ride like a goon (over 75% capability), do it on a closed course. The public roads are no place for 80%+ goon riding if you aren't ready to kill yourself or somebody else.
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:32 PM   #5
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Well, Having talked to my father, (Who is my reason for riding now) While he said he's always been and still is nervous about me riding, he NEVER once thought about telling me no, or Hanging it up so I wouldn't ride--His exact words were

"You can't live life scared, I lost one son (Unrelated to Motorcycles), but I don't let that cloud how I treat you, If you're a Christian or just believe in god, then Riding a bike or not isn't going to determine when it's your time."

Teach them about riding, teach them about gear--Let them learn from their mistakes that ALL OF US made as noobs, teach them that the speed of the bike is only going to be equal to the twist of ones wrist.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:00 PM   #6
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Well, Having talked to my father, (Who is my reason for riding now) While he said he's always been and still is nervous about me riding, he NEVER once thought about telling me no, or Hanging it up so I wouldn't ride--His exact words were

"You can't live life scared, I lost one son (Unrelated to Motorcycles), but I don't let that cloud how I treat you, If you're a Christian or just believe in god, then Riding a bike or not isn't going to determine when it's your time."

Teach them about riding, teach them about gear--Let them learn from their mistakes that ALL OF US made as noobs, teach them that the speed of the bike is only going to be equal to the twist of ones wrist.
...unless it putt-putts off of a cliff in Middle-Of-Nowhere Utah or something.




Dirt can be dangerous too. LIFE is dangerous. It's so dangerous that nobody comes all the way through it alive.

My mom and my stepdad got me into riding street. Neither of them ride anymore. My stepdad passed away from a heart attack just a few short years after retirement. My mom doesn't like that I still ride, street OR dirt, and she still rides her quad around her farm without a helmet. She also understands that even if I live my life curled up on the couch in a fetal position, surrounded by doctors and fluffy CE-approved pillows, I STILL won't live forever. Besides, that's no kind of life to live...afraid to do anything, except cower in the house.

There are all kinds of things to fear in life. From living a lot of my life in Chicago, unarmed, and as a diminutive non-gangmember of unintimidating presence, I tend to be very untrusting of people. I've had to force myself to have anything to do with anybody. Sometimes, you have to make a conscious decision like that, to stare the world in the face and say, "Bring your best, or bring your worst, but just bring it. I choose not to live my life in fear.".
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:06 PM   #7
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Nwpa - to be clear, I love motorcycles and most of the people I know who are involved with them. That's not the issue. Do you have kids? Have you ever experienced the loss of close loved one from a motor vehicles crash? Have you ever looked at the street bike statistics for young adults? If you are not a Dad, then I don't think it's possible for you to understand this concern
I never would have understood.
I'm starting to not take you seriously. Maybe you should think about how your father feels and stop riding all-together?

My son is 24.
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I'm starting to not take you seriously. Maybe you should think about how your father feels and stop riding all-together?

My son is 24.
You didn't take the question seriously. You responded like there's no reason to be concerned, which is ridiculous. You brought up drugs. Statistically most drugs are probably safer for a young adult than riding a motorcycle.
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You brought up drugs. Statistically most drugs are probably safer for a young adult than riding a motorcycle.
What's scary is YOU'RE serious....
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:19 PM   #10
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I'm starting to not take you seriously. Maybe you should think about how your father feels and stop riding all-together?

My son is 24.
nwpa - I come here for good discussion. I think your posts are antagonistic. Not in the spirit of the place. Not that it's really relevant, but my father is dead - from a car crash. Don't care for internet rudeness..

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I appreciate some folks attempt to have a good discussion about this issue. Our street passion is dangerous as hell. And, if you look at the statistics for younger drivers it multiplies the statistics many fold. We ride dirt together and they have ridden on the back of my street bikes. On one hand I think it would be cool to have them grow up riding street together with me. On the other, it scares the crap out of me. Just looking for others who have been through the same thing.

PS - I don't have the same concern with dirt. It can hurt you. I have quite a list myself. But I put it in a similar level as say playing football.

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:55 AM   #12
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nwpa - I come here for good discussion. I think your posts are antagonistic. Not in the spirit of the place. Not that it's really relevant, but my father is dead - from a car crash. Don't care for internet rudeness..
My point is that it's extremely hypocrytical to engage in a behavior you apparently enjoy while looking to deny that same pleasure from your child. I'm not implying you won't worry about your child, but worry is what you sign up for as a parent. If you are serious here, sell the bike and retire the gear, but don't ride while trying to tell your kids it's too dangerous for them.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:55 PM   #13
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If you don't want your kids to ride street , then YOU shouldn't either. You're being a hypocrit.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:59 PM   #14
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If you don't want your kids to ride street , then YOU shouldn't either. You're being a hypocrit.
Agree. That is part of the issue I'm wrestling with. I'll give up the street side if I decide I want to stop influencing them towards it.

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Old 10-16-2013, 07:33 AM   #15
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If you don't want your kids to ride street , then YOU shouldn't either. You're being a hypocrit.
You must be 16 with a brand new license and want your folks to buy you a street bike.

Just so ya know, young joey, addults can USUALLY make better decisions than yutes. That keeps most of 'em alive on the dangerous roadways. Kids need a bit more seasoning until they're ready to assume that risk.
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