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Old 10-26-2013, 02:26 AM   #1
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Trip master,RNS, ICO, & Roadbook tips and tricks

So we have the Nav tower thread but no dedicated Trip master thread
Lucky for us we have our in house trip master Guru , Tony Schattat
and Road book genius Mr 640 Armageddon

So today I was replacing the battery's in my ICO when I noticed the I can
Stash couple of spare battery's under the battery lid ,

I don't know if this is a Derry every one knows that or
Hey that's a neat tip .
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:14 AM   #2
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carry or add a spare pick up sensor wire.. thats all I got for now! Good thread idea ! So now all the switch ideas came come to the surface !
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:34 PM   #3
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Get some 2032 button cell batteries for $3.43, qty 20, free shipping, no tax, very slow delivery:
http://dx.com/p/2032-x-20-pcs-cell-batteries-751


While you're there, pick up some spare JST connectors that match Tony's Tripmaster and Heading Repeater power cables, $2.70 for qty 10. Tony, you really should use something a bit more rugged than JST connectors with tiny wires, since everything else about your devices is top notch!
http://dx.com/p/jst-cables-10-pair-15234
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:23 AM   #4
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Great thread idea!

HogWold, I admit, they are a 'bit' fragile, but zip tie them properly to your nav-support plate plate and all is good. I haven't really found an alternative solution. Maybe you've got something to share that is easily available, pre-assembled, just solder on to the board and go?

I'd be more than happy to use new power connectors on the new generation of TMs (coming soon )
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:03 PM   #5
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Well good timing for this thread

I'm currently trying to connect a Trail Tech Remote with an old ICO.


Trailtech has three knobs and four wires.
The ICO Remote (which knobs I hate) has three knobs and three wires.
I can't figure out what the third knob is doing. Actually I know what it is doing but not how.
Does anyone know this?

The Trailtech remote works fine with the top and bottom knob so distance up and down is possible as is switching modes.


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Old 10-27-2013, 12:35 PM   #6
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Trailtech has three knobs and four wires.
The ICO Remote (which knobs I hate) has three knobs and three wires.
I can't figure out what the third knob is doing. Actually I know what it is doing but not how.
Does anyone know this?
Stefan, there's an easy trick for a conversion, 2 diodes are what you'll need!
Take the cathode end of a diode, connect it with the + button line, Do the same with the other diode and connect its cathode to the - line. Now, connect both of the other ends of the diodes (their anodes) together on to the third wire (now your mode button), that's all!

To help you understand it better, as you said the ICO remote has 3 buttons and 3 wires vs. your TT remote with 3 buttons and 4 wires. The ICO remote essentially only has 2 buttons, the third button for the modes has the identical effect as pushing the other two buttons (+ and -) together at the same time. In other words, the mode button is not a standalone button like on your TT remote, it does the job of pressing the other two buttons at the same time. Get it?
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:42 PM   #7
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Yes,

thanks. I was thinking of diodes but was hoping for a simpler solution.
Two buttons will do the job for Nav Training over Christmas.
After that I need a new Tripmaster anyway and yours are looking good

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Old 10-28-2013, 02:43 PM   #8
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I would like someone to build a nice sturdy Speedo cable and pick up
so I can run to Units off of one cable

Anyone ????
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:21 PM   #9
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My Close up (reading) eyesight is getting worse by the day, Is there anything available to magnify the road book to make it better to read.

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Old 10-28-2013, 07:16 PM   #10
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Pro-Vue goggle inserts. They make a prescription insert that plugs right into your goggles.

Mine work great: easy to insert into goggle frame, completely vibration proof(stays put), easy to remove and clean. Not cheap, and worth every penny.



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My Close up (reading) eyesight is getting worse by the day, Is there anything available to magnify the road book to make it better to read.

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Old 10-28-2013, 10:04 PM   #11
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I would like someone to build a nice sturdy Speedo cable and pick up
so I can run to Units off of one cable

Anyone ????
What's the bottleneck? does it need a stronger magnet? Since it's just a signal pulse, I believe that it doesn't work, but I don't understand why....
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:03 PM   #12
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I would like someone to build a nice sturdy Speedo cable and pick up
so I can run to Units off of one cable

Anyone ????
This puts the redundancy at the wrong end of the equation. The units don't usually fail--it's the cables that fail. IMHO, you are better off with 1 unit and 2 cables than 2 units and 1 cable. Of course, you should run 2 units and 2 cables if you really want to do it "right".

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Old 10-29-2013, 01:15 PM   #13
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A single sensor for multiple units could work, but not by directly connecting the individual units parallel to each other. The way the system work is you have 2 wires in those sensors, one is a high signal, e.g. 5V, the other is GND. The switch in the sensor does nothing but short circuit these two lines upon proximity of a magnet. The effect we saw on the Sigmas can occur when hooking up multiple units together that a high signal from unit A comes in contact with the GND signal of unit B. One would have to therefore measure which line is high and which is GND, couple them together with diodes (yes, those things yet again!) and then you could run a single sensor.
But as already mentioned by Dave, you have no backup!!!
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:58 AM   #14
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couple them together with diodes (yes, those things yet again!)
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:02 PM   #15
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Question odo cable routing

I was wondering how the cables for the various types of rally odometers
are routed. I plan to run two,one tripmaster and one ICO and am most interested in how the cables are run to avoid damage at the bottom near
the sensor. Thanks.
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