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Old 11-05-2013, 06:41 AM   #1
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That was awkward. . .

Something happened to me on Saturday that I am still wondering about. I was getting gas in my BMW K1100RS when I noticed a guy staring at me. I looked away, but then he say, "You need to get a Harley."
I said, "No thanks, I like what I have."
"Piece of German shit." he replies.

I was almost done filling so I chose to ignore him. I was securing the tank bag when he starts to approach. I did not want to be sitting on the bike in case I needed to defend myself and he had a buddy with him, a peacemaker it turned out. I was wearing full gear so I really wasn't scared of him, I just didn't want to deal with any crap. The bike was on the center stand and he sort of kicked at it, like he wanted to knock it over. He missed and I get the impression that he is either drunk or under the influence of something. I said something like "WTF is your problem." and his buddy comes over and grabs him and walks him to their truck. I got on and made a hasty retreat. This is a first for me and I am still wondering what his deal was. I understand brand pride, but that seemed a little extreme to me.

Anyone else ever have to deal with something like this? How did you handle it?
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:47 AM   #2
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A hasty retreat is the most prudent course of action, especially when you're on a bike.. even when you're in the right, you could end up getting hurt.

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Old 11-05-2013, 06:59 AM   #3
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Good decision. You never know when some nut might pull a gun.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:27 AM   #4
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Good decision. You never know when some nut might pull a gun.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:45 AM   #5
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I enjoy this forum, but rarely post...odd that I'd reply on this thread, but here's my .02 cents...

I've been on bikes since the late '60's starting with a Honda minibike, and through the years have been blessed to own a wide variety different bikes...many of them memorable ones. The list includes dirtbikes such as Huskys, Bultacos, and Hondas too, throw in a Penton or two, and a Kawasaki, with a couple of CJ framed 'one offs' included. I've owned the original UJM, an awesome CB 750 K1 that I kept and rode for many years, but have had a long list of other fun street bikes through the years, which includes a couple of HD's. My barn has had a wide variety of bikes in it through the years, and to me, that's a great thing.

While I admit that it's true that there's the potential for just about anybody to become an a$$hole under the wrong circumstances, I believe those idiots are the minority. I've noticed that time and miles on bikes tend to temper those things in most riders. If someone stays in our sport for the longterm, they figure out the secret...that the real joy is just in being on the bike!...whatever it is at that moment. The friendships I've made are awesome...but the biker culture (like our society) will always be in change. There's something about putting 100,000 miles on many different bikes over many years that just puts the 'brand' issue into perspective, and reminds me of what being on the road, or off the road, on any bike is all about. I keep thinking...'so many cool bikes, so little time to ride them all'. There's a few don't share that perspective though, and often their identity is found in being a part of some 'biker culture'.

I've had a couple of incidents in my time as a rider...and they were from noobs, or non-riders. Their comments proved to me that they haven't figured it out yet...the awesome joy of doing life on 2 wheels. Recently, I've noted a growing crowd in our local multi-line bike shop which includes HD, Triumph, and all four Japanese lines. On the surface, these guys look like they've come off of the set of 'Sons of Anarchy'. Then I look at them, mostly young guys, and I wonder which of them will figure it out and be 'one of us' (a rider and lover of motorcycles), and which ones will move onto the next fad once they become bored. I'm reminded of the truth once again...that in every group or style of riders, there's the one's who ride for the joy of it, and they are the majority...and will always be those who are in it due to some identity crisis.

A few will always use something to divide and fight...I see motorcycling as the great unifiying thing, as I think about all the folks I've made friends with through the years...from a motocross track, or an enduro, to a weekend of carving twisties in the mountains...all because we just loved being on our bikes. I can connect with any of those guys who are out there on the trails and roads because they are riders, no matter what they happen to be riding...and the rest don't matter. I just ride away and pity them for not getting it...
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:13 PM   #6
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I just ride away and pity them for not getting it...
Well spoken. Thanks for sharing a sliver of your wisdom.
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Old 12-23-2013, 03:40 PM   #7
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I enjoy this forum, but rarely post...odd that I'd reply on this thread, but here's my .02 cents...

I've been on bikes since the late '60's starting with a Honda minibike, and through the years have been blessed to own a wide variety different bikes...many of them memorable ones. The list includes dirtbikes such as Huskys, Bultacos, and Hondas too, throw in a Penton or two, and a Kawasaki, with a couple of CJ framed 'one offs' included. I've owned the original UJM, an awesome CB 750 K1 that I kept and rode for many years, but have had a long list of other fun street bikes through the years, which includes a couple of HD's. My barn has had a wide variety of bikes in it through the years, and to me, that's a great thing.

While I admit that it's true that there's the potential for just about anybody to become an a$$hole under the wrong circumstances, I believe those idiots are the minority. I've noticed that time and miles on bikes tend to temper those things in most riders. If someone stays in our sport for the longterm, they figure out the secret...that the real joy is just in being on the bike!...whatever it is at that moment. The friendships I've made are awesome...but the biker culture (like our society) will always be in change. There's something about putting 100,000 miles on many different bikes over many years that just puts the 'brand' issue into perspective, and reminds me of what being on the road, or off the road, on any bike is all about. I keep thinking...'so many cool bikes, so little time to ride them all'. There's a few don't share that perspective though, and often their identity is found in being a part of some 'biker culture'.

I've had a couple of incidents in my time as a rider...and they were from noobs, or non-riders. Their comments proved to me that they haven't figured it out yet...the awesome joy of doing life on 2 wheels. Recently, I've noted a growing crowd in our local multi-line bike shop which includes HD, Triumph, and all four Japanese lines. On the surface, these guys look like they've come off of the set of 'Sons of Anarchy'. Then I look at them, mostly young guys, and I wonder which of them will figure it out and be 'one of us' (a rider and lover of motorcycles), and which ones will move onto the next fad once they become bored. I'm reminded of the truth once again...that in every group or style of riders, there's the one's who ride for the joy of it, and they are the majority...and will always be those who are in it due to some identity crisis.

A few will always use something to divide and fight...I see motorcycling as the great unifiying thing, as I think about all the folks I've made friends with through the years...from a motocross track, or an enduro, to a weekend of carving twisties in the mountains...all because we just loved being on our bikes. I can connect with any of those guys who are out there on the trails and roads because they are riders, no matter what they happen to be riding...and the rest don't matter. I just ride away and pity them for not getting it...
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:29 AM   #8
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:09 AM   #9
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I blame it on the human penchant to breed incessantly & indiscriminately...

Also, while a hasty retreat may have seemed (& probably was) the prudent choice, it is why he'll do this again-under the influence or not.

A lot of people are on this tough guy trip mostly because they've never been called on it.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:24 AM   #10
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There are a lot of weirdos in the world. You handled it well. I had to physically push a very drunk man away from me and ride away once. He insisted that I give him a ride and was getting beligerant about it.

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:21 AM   #11
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:26 AM   #12
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How close to York were you? Could be a guy who got laid off from HD.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:17 AM   #13
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Each one of us has the asshole gene coursing through our veins. Society dictates that we keep it under control if we care to have a modicum of success in our lives.

A small segment of society have simply given up trying to suppress it or are straight up sociopaths that never catered to even trying except when they do so to manipulate their victims.

Add a substance impairment to the mix and you have an Instant Asshole.

Never turn your back on them and never let them strike first.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:31 AM   #14
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In my experience it's always Harley riders that start this shit. While most 90+% of Harley riders are not like that, the riders that are, are exlusively HD. I've never seen or heard riders of Euro, or Jap bikes treat other bikers this way .
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:47 PM   #15
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How close to York were you? Could be a guy who got laid off from HD.
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