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Old 09-02-2005, 12:38 PM   #1
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Had to plug a tire today

I’m not anal about much, one of the things I am anal about is air pressure in my tires.
Moto, car, trailer, whatever….if it is between me or a loved one & the pavement I’m anal.
So on a pre ride tire pressure check I noticed I was down about 10 PSI.

WTF?

I take a look & sure enough foreign object.


So, open the tool kit get the plug repair tools & material & go to work


Out with the foreign object, in this case a 1.5 “ screw



Clean the hole



Insert plug


Trim plug


Done - 15 minutes including picture taking time




So, how long can these 880’s last with a plug?
I figure I got 6-8K of tread left on them.
Can I ride em out of tread with a plug in them?
I don’t ride that hard & rarely see triple digit speed.
Mostly highway speeds of 70-80. Occasional gravel.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:29 PM   #2
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I've heard some people say "don't worry 'bout it, it'll do fine with the plug."

I've heard other people say "the tire is a no go now, must replace. Very dangerous."


Me, I'm more towards the former. If I thought I had 6-8K miles left on the tire, I would likely trim the plug on the inside of the tire and put a patch over it on the inside. OTOH if I thought I had 1Kmi left I would simply take the attitude "don't worry 'bout it, it'll do fine with the plug." In fact, this is what I've done on both cars and motos.

But that's just me....
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:58 PM   #3
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Thats a lot of miles to run on a plug. I would at least have a shop pull the tire and install an umbrella plug/patch and remount the tire. Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:20 PM   #4
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Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.
You won't find a regular bike shop that will do that in the US.

Ride it, watch it, check the pressure a lot. The worst that should happen is ya get a slow leak. I ran mine a few thousand miles before I replaced my tire.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:27 PM   #5
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You won't find a regular bike shop that will do that in the US.
really? do it all the time up here... worked in a tyre shop as a student. we did patches all the time. just had one done on my jetta a couple months ago when i picked up a nail. $30 cdn including taking the wheel off my car.
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Old 09-02-2005, 08:23 PM   #6
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really? do it all the time up here... worked in a tyre shop as a student. we did patches all the time. just had one done on my jetta a couple months ago when i picked up a nail. $30 cdn including taking the wheel off my car.
You can get a car tire patched at any tire place or most gas stations. You will be hard pressed to find a bike shop that will patch a motorcycle tire in the states. A small independent shop may do it.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:13 PM   #7
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really? do it all the time up here... worked in a tyre shop as a student. we did patches all the time. just had one done on my jetta a couple months ago when i picked up a nail. $30 cdn including taking the wheel off my car.
I had a screw in an almost new (less than 500 miles) tire. I took it to four motorcycle shops in the area. No shop would touch it. Maybe the just wanted to sell a new tire.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:12 AM   #8
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...Ride it, watch it, check the pressure a lot. The worst that should happen is ya get a slow leak....
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...I had a plugged hole once that would start leaking again after several hundred miles....
This is why if I thought I had more than a month's worth of miles left on the tire, I'm happy simply putting a flat patch over the trimmed plug on the inside. Very easy to do (don't even need to completely remove the tire) and patches are available anywhere.

Funny, but even the way message boards have a way of "amplifying" improbable events, I never hear of any tires that are simply plugged suddenly losing air or other "catastrophic" failure on any boards I've been on.

Hard for me to understand the paranoia about plugs.

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Old 09-03-2005, 08:33 AM   #9
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I had a plugged tire on my pickup explode. Probably because of loss of pressure while I was driving. It happened about 20 miles after I left the shop. For autos; no good tire shop will plug a tire. Automobile tire manufacturers definitely recommend against it.

After plugging a tire, the GS manual recommends a reduced maximum speed (pretty slow) and tire replacement.

Just remember that all of the control forces are transmitted through the tire/road interface.

I agree that if you are careful, the failure is a low probability event and many people have used plugs successfully. The possibility of tire failure is, however, significantly increased. If I can eliminate a risk for a few hundred bucks, I'll do it.

The difficult part of safety is that you don't get any extra, you just get to keep what you have.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:47 PM   #10
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Thats a lot of miles to run on a plug. I would at least have a shop pull the tire and install an umbrella plug/patch and remount the tire. Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.
What Rad said.........

You can always have the tire dismounted and patch it from the inside yourself. Done properly, it should last until the tread is gone.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:02 PM   #11
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Hey, Mike!

You change your own tires, right? Like others have said, take this one off and put an "umbrella" patch on the inside and keep and eye on the pressure. It should be fine for the life of the tire. I ran a rear Tourance for ~7k miles like this with no problems.
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