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Old 01-19-2014, 09:03 PM   #1
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The obsession with low revs on the highway

Whenever a new bike is introduced, members here wail and go on about how high the bike will be revving at 80, 90 or 100 mph.

I don't get it.

Perhaps I trust the manufacturer too much, but I always figure that they have designed the bike to be at an optimal rpm at 70 mph.

However, it seems that everyone always claims it is 'revving too high.'

Why do we dislike bikes revving high? Is it longevity concerns? Vibration? Noise (that can probably be fixed by putting the stock pipe back on). Or just a subjective aesthetic concern?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:27 PM   #2
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Quite simply, they are brick stupid..


They don't understand that the wind resistance increases exponentially the faster you go. Their bike goes just fine at 10 mph in second gear at 2,250 rpms... So 3,500 at 70 mph is ok.

They don't understand that all engines have a sweet spot.

They don't understand that you need to hold the next gear a little longer than the last one as you accelerate.

They don't understand they are lugging their engine riding in top gear around town at 50mph.

They don't understand that the manufacturers put TALL gearing on the bike to pass emissions.

They can't comprehend that an engine can return better fuel economy and a longer service life if ridden at speed at a higher rpm. It goes against everything they "know".



That is all.
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:27 AM   #3
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Quite simply, they are brick stupid..


They don't understand that the wind resistance increases exponentially the faster you go. Their bike goes just fine at 10 mph in second gear at 2,250 rpms... So 3,500 at 70 mph is ok.

They don't understand that all engines have a sweet spot.

They don't understand that you need to hold the next gear a little longer than the last one as you accelerate.

They don't understand they are lugging their engine riding in top gear around town at 50mph.

They don't understand that the manufacturers put TALL gearing on the bike to pass emissions.

They can't comprehend that an engine can return better fuel economy and a longer service life if ridden at speed at a higher rpm. It goes against everything they "know".



That is all.

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:32 AM   #4
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Quite simply, they are brick stupid..
^This guy...
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:43 AM   #5
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"When u ride your motorcycle the motor should always be "In the Pipe""

In the pipe may be a pothead term, I don't know! But the motorcycle term is "On the pipe" and it refers to when a 2-stroke hits the power band.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:25 PM   #6
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"When u ride your motorcycle the motor should always be "In the Pipe""

In the pipe may be a pothead term, I don't know! But the motorcycle term is "On the pipe" and it refers to when a 2-stroke hits the power band.

HAHA...That was QUICK!

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Old 01-19-2014, 09:31 PM   #7
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Low RPMs are less "stressful" on the rider when doing lots of miles.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:35 PM   #8
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Low RPMs are less "stressful" on the rider when doing lots of miles.
How?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:46 PM   #9
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Low RPMs are less "stressful" on the rider when doing lots of miles.
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How?
They don't stress about their bike revving...
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:02 PM   #10
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They don't stress about their bike revving...

Perhaps your riding style and choice of bikes has been limited in scope and you simply can't appreciate things outside your experience?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:55 PM   #11
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How?
Its just the way it is.

Go ride a 250cc bike 70 mph at 6500 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway, then ride a big displacement cruiser 70 mph at 3000 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway.

It will be self explanatory.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:38 PM   #12
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Its just the way it is.

Go ride a 250cc bike 70 mph at 6500 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway, then ride a big displacement cruiser 70 mph at 3000 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway.

It will be self explanatory.




You may want to reread the first post again.
He wasn't talking about two different size bikes.
Or else I completely misread the post...but I don't think I did.



Peak torque for my bike is 7250 rpm, this puts the bike right at 70 per cent of the 10,500 rpm range.
I think they got it spot on for highway cruising.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:04 PM   #13
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You may want to reread the first post again.
He wasn't talking about two different size bikes.
Or else I completely misread the post...but I don't think I did.
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Why do we dislike bikes revving high? Is it longevity concerns? Vibration? Noise (that can probably be fixed by putting the stock pipe back on). Or just a subjective aesthetic concern?
I took it to be a generic question about high RPMs, maybe I was mistaken.

I have owned a lot of different bikes in many configurations, and have found the ones that can cruise at lower RPMs to be more relaxing to ride for long distances.

I was simply relating my personal experiences and opinions.
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:56 AM   #14
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Its just the way it is.

Go ride a 250cc bike 70 mph at 6500 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway, then ride a big displacement cruiser 70 mph at 3000 RPM's for 500 miles on the freeway.

It will be self explanatory.
...still depends on the bike, not engine size.

My current ride is a TU250X and it's more of a pleasure to ride at highway speeds than either of my DR650's were or my old GSX1100G (with large windshield) ever were, mostly because it's super comfortable and it's set up for touring. It's flick ability/maneuverability is much less stressful than man handling a larger bike and, it's even more stable in crosswinds than other larger bikes I've owned.

Higher revs be damned...it's one of the most relaxing bikes to ride, I've ever owned. (on the interstates @ 65+ included) She can stay pegged @ 75 for hours and not really feel taxed at all (even if that usually is her top speed)
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Old 01-25-2014, 11:41 AM   #15
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Oh for fuck sake If you want high rev's stop shifting . Low revs shift more. Simple
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