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Old 01-24-2014, 08:31 AM   #1
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Hi-Viz believer or non believer?

I wear hi-viz and think it helps with people seeing me. I don't really give much thought as to looking cool for people I don't know. I also don't really care or judge people who want to wear a t-shirt and no helmet or whatever. I have on occasion heard "Well if your that scared why even ride?" I don't ride around scared, just think it increases my ability to be seen. No false sense of security wearing it or anything like that either. I do have a nice leather jacket I wear sometimes so I ride the same either way. A personal preference what you choose to wear when you ride and no business of mine. So are you a hi-viz believer or think it doesn't matter or is very low on the cool factor?
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:45 AM   #2
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I would say non believer. I doubt people who don't see your bike would most likely not see your high viz either even with neon signs and fireworks. I'm sure others will swear by it and have "OMG I would be dead without hi viz" stories. IMO opinion hi viz is equal to revving your engine at a stop light. But what do I know, if you feel better wearing it and it gets you out on 2 wheels then go for it.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:57 AM   #3
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IMO opinion hi viz is equal to revving your engine at a stop light.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. So every time you see someone wearing hi-viz the first thing you equate them to is some douche nozzle that revs his engine for a "look at me" reaction?


Having said that, I don't know if there is any way to substantiate whether or not hi-viz gear gets your average motorist's attention. It sure can't hurt though. I still think the best way to avoid being hit by a cage is to ride like they're out to kill you. Keep your situational awareness on high and your head on a swivel.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:00 AM   #4
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I think that's a bit of a stretch. So every time you see someone wearing hi-viz the first thing you equate them to is some douche nozzle that revs his engine for a "look at me" reaction?

My thinking is if loud pipes save lives so does loud gear.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:31 PM   #5
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I think that's a bit of a stretch. So every time you see someone wearing hi-viz the first thing you equate them to is some douche nozzle that revs his engine for a "look at me" reaction?


Having said that, I don't know if there is any way to substantiate whether or not hi-viz gear gets your average motorist's attention. It sure can't hurt though. I still think the best way to avoid being hit by a cage is to ride like they're out to kill you. Keep your situational awareness on high and your head on a swivel.
That's my riding survival style.... Always pretending that all the cages WANT to kill me...
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:06 PM   #6
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I would say non believer... IMO opinion hi viz is equal to revving your engine at a stop light. But what do I know...

Wait, what ?

Someone wearing bright gear to PASSIVELY increase their chances to go home to their family is the SAME THING as somebody actively making a racket while stationary to attract attention like a precocious child ?

WTF ?

Your choice:

1) Somebody with open pipes racks the tach outside your open bedroom window for 5 minutes at random every hour all night long
or
2) A guy with fluorescent clothing rides around the block every half hour on a stock BMW.

One can be overcome by averting your eyes, the other inspires hatred toward all motorcyclists - and you don't see a difference ? really ?

For the record, I don't own any Hi-Viz gear, but your statement is one of the sillier things I've read in awhile.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:19 PM   #7
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I don't place a ton of stock in it, but I think anything helps. I ride as defensively as I care to at the given moment, stay aware of my surroundings, and enjoy what I can.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:52 PM   #8
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now that florescent green is a fashion color, and common, it does not work as well. When I was the only one, worked great. Also it fades horribly. I am back to silver and grey with reflective trim.

Looks better, and works as well.

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Old 01-24-2014, 08:57 AM   #9
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High-viz is good for helping drivers who are paying attention see you sooner, but shouldn't be considered helpful attracting the attention of those who aren't.

So no, I don't consider it an effective safety device.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:02 AM   #10
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I don't see how Hi-Viz/reflective garments could possibly hurt your visibility. So long as you ride assuming no one sees you regardless of what you're wearing you're better off than most.

It would be interesting to see a poll on this thread (although I'm sure it's been done before).
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:06 AM   #11
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I've seen cars pull out in front of school busses, even brighter painted hotel vans, huge orange snowplows and even trains. Not to mention a bunch of brightly colored motorcycles.

I prefer stealth. They can't hit what they can't see.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:11 AM   #12
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ditchs my HiViz jacket after I found to many drivers were drifitng over my way - I suspect it's the old "drive where you look" thing
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:22 AM   #13
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I prefer stealth. They can't hit what they can't see.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:44 AM   #14
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Don't see how hi viz can hurt. Not likely to be a make or break type thing, but every little bit helps.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:12 AM   #15
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I agree that it helps those that are actively trying to look out for others, but to the typical brain dead driver I doubt it is of much benefit.

Will never forget sitting at a red light hearing a fire truck with sirens blaring coming up towards our intersection from the right side direction. The light turned green for our lanes and this guy starts blowing his horn at the guy in front of him. Well the guy in front of him obviously heard the sirens as well, and was waiting as the rest of us were, so the impatient horn blower pulls around the guy in front of him, zips out into the intersection right in front of the fire truck. Luckily for all involved the fire truck was taking a right, and had to slow down or he would have plowed that impatient idiot right in the passenger side.

People pull out in front of trains, 18 wheelers, etc, etc, etc, good luck with loud pipes, or hi-vis. Best to ride like you're invisible, because to many out on the road, you are.
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