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Old 07-28-2009, 08:58 AM   #1
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WF Tincup, Cumberland, and Hancock Passes

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The route: St Elmo, Tincup pass, Tincup, Cumberland Pass, Hancock Pass.

After reading the info below I'm guessing this would be best for a 650 sized bike, but I'm sure a qualified rider could get a 950 SE thru it all. It looks like a 4-5 hour tour, but I haven't done any of it so I don't really know. Who's in?

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Old 07-28-2009, 09:58 AM   #2
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The route: St Elmo, Tincup pass, Tincup, Cumberland Pass, Hancock Pass.

There's been a lot of info posted about Hancock Pass. It doesn't look like the easiest pass out there. Maybe better for sub 650 bikes, but I'm sure a qualified rider could get any 650 over it. I'm guessing a daring 950 SE rider would be successful as well. I'll be on my WR426. It looks like a 4-5 hour tour, but I haven't done any of it so I don't really know. Who's in?

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Old 07-28-2009, 10:51 AM   #3
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This is post #35 in the routes thread. I'm guessing this is the hard part.

[EDIT] This is NOT Hancock, this is something more difficult, see below.

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hancock is a mess, I have seen a 12gs go up it. He he did drop it thought

I've taken a KLR up it, you need focus but it is very doable. On that same tip though I've seen some guys on 450's struggle tring to get up it. So it really comes down to skill.

here's the guys on the small bikes working it. And to think they laughed at me on a KLR trying it.



here is a close up of the terrian, this guy was on a klr as well and we both cleaned this pass, but came down to help others up.



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and even then there just so much you can do


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Old 07-28-2009, 11:10 AM   #4
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Paul, That's actually Schofield Pass N of Crested Butte. Hancock is rough and has some ledges. Duke or Gaspipe said that Hancock, TinCup and Tomichi are all about the same difficulty.
I met John Wesley at the SLAP rally, nice guy and a very skilled rider.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:20 AM   #5
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Hancock isn't that tough (I think those photos you posted are to the devils punchbowl at Schofield)... probably the south side of Tomichi is a little tougher; I guess it comes down to rider. If you go through the obstacles at speed you don't even notice 'em (last time we rode it was in the dark).

Tincup isn't technical its just a lot of scree. On the Husky its nothing... on an Ascott VT500 it beat the crap out of my kidneys



The "toughest" stuff on Hancock is about like this... iirc this was about 1/3 of the way up the south side:



This is at the top of Hancock looking at Tomichi - you can see the road going up Tomichi on the far side.. the top of it is the V-notch

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Old 07-28-2009, 11:25 AM   #6
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Geek? In that last pic, aren't you looking AT Hancock, FROM Tomichi?
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:34 AM   #7
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Geek? In that last pic, aren't you looking AT Hancock, FROM Tomichi?
I think you are right GSL. That is my KLR in the picture.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:06 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info everyone. The pics are great. So I'm guessing this route would be best for a 650 sized bike.

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Geek? In that last pic, aren't you looking AT Hancock, FROM Tomichi?
We are looking from south to north.

Which pass is the southern of the two?

its all a blur I definitely know we were on the southern peak though as it was dark by the time we got to the top of the northern peak and then popped out near St. Elmo to BV
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We are looking from south to north.

Which pass is the southern of the two?

its all a blur I definitely know we were on the southern peak though as it was dark by the time we got to the top of the northern peak and then popped out near St. Elmo to BV

That's definitely looking at Hancock from Tomichi. (Tomichi is the southern pass)
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:23 AM   #12
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Slightly OT, but what's that rear knobby on the Husky in that pic above. That's your bike, isn't it Geek?

I thought the same thing on the one pic above that looks like Crystal Mill to Schofield.
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Slightly OT, but what's that rear knobby on the Husky in that pic above.
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I'm looking forward to a new RR. Every time I ride tomichi and hancock I keep thinking that hancock is harder, lots more loose round rocks and ledges. Most folks here seem to favor tomichi, at least the south side. It's been two years since I was up there though. My youngest son is about ready for the next step up so we'll be returning hopefully this fall.
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