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Old 07-24-2009, 06:10 PM   #31
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I haven't had occasion to try it out yet (fortunately), but Globeriders demonstrates on their F800GS maintenance DVD an interesting technique to break the bead on a rear tire using the bike's weight via the sidestand. It's worth checking out.
I gave that technique a try when I replaced the original Battlewings with some Heidenau K60s, Stephen, and even in the comfort of my garage, breaking the bead on the rear tire using the side stand was an exercise in extreme frustration. I eventually got the tire off. But I have no illusions about being able to do that on the trail. So I got me one of these Motion Pro bead poppers:



Works much better.

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Old 07-24-2009, 08:06 PM   #32
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I haven't had occasion to try it out yet (fortunately), but Globeriders demonstrates on their F800GS maintenance DVD an interesting technique to break the bead on a rear tire using the bike's weight via the sidestand. It's worth checking out.

Stephen

I've done this many times -- with the sidestand of another bike. Are you saying they use the sidestand of the stricken bike, rear wheel removed to somehow accomplish this?


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Old 07-24-2009, 09:15 PM   #33
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Bead breaking follow up

Woodworks and Packmule,

All I can suggest is that what Helge Pedersen showed in the Globeriders DVD seemed to work.

With the rear wheel off and the bike on the centre stand, he then rolled the bike sideways, loading the weight onto the side stand which was strategically positioned to break the bead from the rim. He did caution it was a delicate process to avoid dropping the bike when the bead lets go.

For the front wheel, he used a bead popper like the sample Motion Pro in your photo. Later in the DVD, while demonstrating a puncture repair, he successfully used the bead popper on the rear too (TKC 80), rather than the sidestand method.

That said, I have no experience with any of these techniques - hence why I bought an instructional DVD...

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:58 PM   #34
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So, I had occasion to try the one-bike-sidestand-beadbreaker method tonight. It took a few attempts to refine the technique, but it is doable. Sketchy, but doable. At least for the rear tire.

Shimming underneath with a 2x4 (or other similar object) helped, but by no means made it "easy".


The bead on those stock battlewings sucks ass.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:16 PM   #35
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I have done it a couple times... I propped up the opposite side of the rim using the tire I intend to install (guess I will need to find a rock if I am on the trail).

You can pretty simply pull the bike over off the center stand and onto the side stand... little bounce and the bead usually lets go...
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