Nascar Sucks! - Page 12

volxport · 11-13-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zrxmoto

If you've never been to a NASCAR race in person give it a try sometime. The sound of a healthy V8 screaming by is still one of the finest sounds in motorsports. We've shown up at NASCAR races in our Honda Civic and on the bikes and have only ever received warm welcomes from those around us. Right after parking you'll invariably get offered to join some tailgaters for a beer and/or some bbq. I've met nothing but great people at these events.

I think it fully compatible to say I like NASCAR and also say I love my Ducati and taking it to trackdays and that I love motorcycle road racing.

I had a SCCA road racing license for a while and raced Spec Racer Ford. That got WAY expensive. Also had the opportunity to race a Legends car on a 3/8's mile paved oval a couple of times. My cousin races IMSA Modifieds on dirt tracks. There isn't anything "easy" about racing on ovals. Racing is racing. You need to be good and prepared no matter the type of racing. The same concepts apply to oval racing: you still have to hit your marks, set your turn-in points, fine tune your adjustments, etc.

A lot of NASCAR drivers are bike guys as well. Several top drivers, including Jimmy, started out in mx. Carl Edwards loves his Ducati's.

And you have guys like Tony Stewart who are just remarkable in my opinion. He's good at NASCAR. He's an excellent road racer. You'll also find him racing on dirt tracks (he owns a dirt track as well) in sprint cars, mods, and whatever every weekend. He's a true enthusiast and good at what he does. He can flap his mouth if he wants.

And ya, I'm sick of Jimmy winning all the time too.

Yes, Racing is Racing and I have been to a NASCAR Race it is full of loud V8's and Testosterone. It is a fun day. But if a F1, Lemans, WRC event happened to be in the US on the same weekend I wouldn't ever choose NASCAR. There is no doubt that those guys are driver's and enthusiasts of motorsports. Let's just hope that NASCAR as the sanctioning body can give us more realistic entertainment.

Lawnmower · 11-13-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by atomic frog

I try and try to watch NASCAR, because I really love all forms of motorsports, but I can't do it any longer. It is soooo predictable, Jimmie Johnson is sickening to watch. He either drives away from the field or cruises around until late in the race and puts on a charge to get a top 5 finish. I can't help but wonder if the sport isn't rigged. It's almost like watching WWE or WWF whatever. I know he hasn't been caught and I really tend to think it's because Hendricks are so far advanced of the rest of the field but geez it is sad to watch this. I'm done!!

Slooooow minds watching fast cars.....NASCAR

That sure is a nascar you got there Bubba.

shrineclown · 11-15-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MotoMike

How many of you can say you've been on the track with Tony Stewart?

I have, but our shoes were on the asphalt. Does that count?

Pantah has it. The Outlaw Sprints will run 180+ mph on a clay track like their hair is on fire. Those guys have a serious pair. Unfortuntely, there is only one venue close to New England and a couple in far New Yawk and PA. But it is worth the trip. when they used to come to the Syracuse mile it was very impressive. Thought the old man was going to win at the Valley this year after dominating the dash. Nope, Delansky came to the A with fire. Dominated the start and re-start and it was over. It is a great show.

jrov · 11-15-2009, 02:40 PM

rajflyboy · 11-15-2009, 04:27 PM

Another suck race! Ratings will be down!!

PeteN95 · 11-16-2009, 10:50 AM

It's not NASCAR that won't run in the rain, it's oval tracks. Indy cars run on roadcourses in the wet, but not ovals. Too many cars too close together at too high speed with too little runoff (none), racing in the rain just doesn't work on ovals. NASCAR claims they would run in the wet at a roadcourse, but they wussed out at Watkins Glen this year.

They ran the Nationwise cars in the wet a couple years ago in Canada and it was a mess, but I think it was because the rain tires were about 8 years old and hard as rock?!?

MotoMike · 11-16-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shrineclown

I have, but our shoes were on the asphalt. Does that count?

Pantah has it. The Outlaw Sprints will run 180+ mph on a clay track like their hair is on fire. Those guys have a serious pair. Unfortuntely, there is only one venue close to New England and a couple in far New Yawk and PA. But it is worth the trip. when they used to come to the Syracuse mile it was very impressive. Thought the old man was going to win at the Valley this year after dominating the dash. Nope, Delansky came to the A with fire. Dominated the start and re-start and it was over. It is a great show.

I was in the same hot lap session as Stewart at Turkey Night one of the two years I tried to make the show. Didn't make it either time. I pretty much sucked.

They quit running Syracuse after Sammy Swidells wing buckled and he took off like a plane going down the front straight. flew straight and level for a good distance, landed and slid to a stop with no damage. His crew ran out with another wing, and Sammy said fuck that.

tattewell · 11-16-2009, 11:22 AM

I agree with original poster... that said, seeing anything live is fun, and Nascar on a road course is still kinda cool... atleast they turn right.

volxport · 11-16-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jrov

LOL!!!!

IgoFar · 11-16-2009, 10:07 PM

Used to be a big NASCAR fan back in the Petty, Yarborough, Allison era. I
thought there was nothing better... until actually paid attention to something else, namely motorcycle racing. Now , to sit and watch cars go in a circle for 500 miles just doesn't make sense any more, the road courses
are much more interesting.

I think one reason for NASCAR's popularity is that ovals are more spectator friendly in that you can see the whole track from your seat. No watching the pack go by and a minute and a half later here they come again. But sitting on a bench packed in like sardines for 3 hours just isn't my idea of a fun way to spend a Sunday afternoon. To me, it's better to be able to roam around and see the track from different vantage points, or sit at the fence in a comfortable chair, or a little bit of both. Freestyling!

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PeteN95 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Muk, WA Oddometer: 180	It's not NASCAR that won't run in the rain, it's oval tracks. Indy cars run on roadcourses in the wet, but not ovals. Too many cars too close together at too high speed with too little runoff (none), racing in the rain just doesn't work on ovals. NASCAR claims they would run in the wet at a roadcourse, but they wussed out at Watkins Glen this year. They ran the Nationwise cars in the wet a couple years ago in Canada and it was a mess, but I think it was because the rain tires were about 8 years old and hard as rock?!? __________________ "If you ain't slidin', you ain't ridin'" SV1000N - Streetfighter/track day tool CRF450R - Trail/SM/flat track XR650R - Dual Sport/RallyMoto

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11-15-2009, 04:27 PM	#170
rajflyboy Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2006 Oddometer: 437	Another suck race! Ratings will be down!!

11-16-2009, 11:22 AM	#173
tattewell Mad Poser Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Selfkant-Tuddern Germany Oddometer: 48	I agree with original poster... that said, seeing anything live is fun, and Nascar on a road course is still kinda cool... atleast they turn right.

11-16-2009, 10:07 PM	#175
IgoFar Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: chesapeake,va. Oddometer: 58	Used to be a big NASCAR fan back in the Petty, Yarborough, Allison era. I thought there was nothing better... until actually paid attention to something else, namely motorcycle racing. Now , to sit and watch cars go in a circle for 500 miles just doesn't make sense any more, the road courses are much more interesting. I think one reason for NASCAR's popularity is that ovals are more spectator friendly in that you can see the whole track from your seat. No watching the pack go by and a minute and a half later here they come again. But sitting on a bench packed in like sardines for 3 hours just isn't my idea of a fun way to spend a Sunday afternoon. To me, it's better to be able to roam around and see the track from different vantage points, or sit at the fence in a comfortable chair, or a little bit of both. Freestyling!