Shinko 705's

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I would think dynabeads wouldn't work too well at lower speeds...

[desmonc]

Originally Posted by oldrider

Why don't you try Dynabeads to balance your wheels, I have and I reckon they are worth a shot!

I would be interested to hear what you think of them, if you do!

I only got the shake with the Shinko's, if the shake comes back I might try Dynabeads, is it easy to swap them from one tyre to another, I can see them going all over the shop floor

[mas335]

Originally Posted by desmonc

My bars would start to shake slowly upto 35 mph and then stop over that speed.
All my riding has been done with about 40kg (90lb) on the back, 2 panniers and topbox. I weigh 78kg or 86kg (190lb) with riding gear, helmet and backpack.

Desmonc: Try increasing your rear shock preload.



I just installed these tires a week ago and other than riding around the neighborhood to get a quick first impression I haven't put any miles on them yet.

My first impression was that they are no substitiute for the rolling smoothness of Avon Distanzias. I actually felt the tire knobs more than I would have expected given the tire tread pattern.
Looking forward to a real on the road test.

[desmonc]

Originally Posted by mas335

Try increasing your rear shock preload.

Rear shock pre-load is on max, front is half-way, I am thinking of fitting a heavier spring, that worked on my KTM.

[mas335]

Originally Posted by desmonc

Rear shock pre-load is on max, front is half-way, I am thinking of fitting a heavier spring, that worked on my KTM.

That's what I would try next.

[McB]

Originally Posted by desmonc

Rear shock pre-load is on max, front is half-way, I am thinking of fitting a heavier spring, that worked on my KTM.

If you're getting some shake that you didn't have before installing the tires, I'm not understanding why you'd look to the rear shock or spring to solve it.

[desmonc]

Originally Posted by McB

If you're getting some shake that you didn't have before installing the tires, I'm not understanding why you'd look to the rear shock or spring to solve it.

The front always felt very light and unstable at lower speeds when loaded up, not a nice feeling off the pavement, at higher speeds I think the wind pushes down on the fairing to make it feel more planted, the Shinko's added the shake which was more annoying than anything else.
Just looking at Sasquatch's website trying to figure out the options.

[oldrider]

Originally Posted by desmonc

I only got the shake with the Shinko's, if the shake comes back I might try Dynabeads, is it easy to swap them from one tyre to another, I can see them going all over the shop floor

Yes, that happened to me at first.

The beads are an acquired taste, they are a bit tricky the first time you use them but once you get the hang of them they are a piece of cake!

Apparently you can save them at tyre change and use them again, I haven't done that yet.

Shinko tyres are an acquired taste too, I have never paid as much attention to a set of tyres before!

I think it is the old brainwashing of "If it's cheap it can't be any good" checking in!

"Expensive" is no guarantee either, in my experience!

It's raining steadily here today, I might go for a ride round the lake just to try them again. (I actually enjoy riding in the rain!)

I took a lot of lead off the rims when I put the beads in now the bike feels smooth and lively at any speed.

The temptation to exceed the "Q" rating is always present though, the Tiger is really awake at 100 mph and 6000 revs! Then it is, Oops, gotta back off! (again)

Yes I like the Shinko's but I am still very wary of them mainly because of the de-lamination and cracking that some have experienced.

The front is always cool but the rear temperature fluctuates quite a lot.

Apparently it's due to too low pressure, in the rear, overloading and overheating! (33 psi maximum on the side wall is wrong)

I keep my front @ 30 psi cold and the rear @ 36 psi cold, rider only, 38 with a pillion or load, 40 with pillion and fully loaded.

I constantly check the feel for temperature! (well, at every opportunity anyway)

As I said, I have never paid this much attention to a set of tyres before and I am still keeping my fingers crossed for a while yet!

[Clayjars]

The 705 is a semi knobbie and is going to rumble a bit especially when fresh. Mine has smoothed out after last weekends ride.

[bwringer]

I have a set of 705s on my Vee, and I love them.

They're about the "knobbliest" tires you can get besides the Conti TKC knobs, and they work quite well on gravel and dirt. Nothing in the world will save a big heavy bike like a V-Strom in sand and mud, but fortunately I have the sense to stay off the dunes and out of the deeper mud holes.

And on the pavement, I can happily carve corners with the peg feelers sparking merrily all the way.

For $120 - $125 a set delivered, call me extremely satisfied.

I notice that several people have commented negatively on the 99mph Q speed rating -- they seem to honestly believe that the tires will instantly disintegrate or turn red or something the moment you exceed 100mph.

I'd like to point out that this belief is pure horseshit, of course, and betrays a complete lack of understanding about what tire speed ratings are and how they work.

There's no need to back gingerly out of the throttle at 99mph. Unless you're blasting Montana interstates at 120mph+ all day when it's over 100 degrees and you're hauling anvils, don't give it a second thought.

[M N B]

It should be safe to exceed the speed rating for somewhat brief periods. Speed rating is based on sustained speed.

I wouldn't want to take a 99mph rated tire up to 150mph for more than about one minute, though. If I would even venture to attempt that speed on such a tire (which is extremely unlikely).

However, I really have no desire to exceed about 90mph on my F800GS for the most part. With little wind protection, going much faster than that just isn't all that desirable. But I don't slow down much in the twisties...

[oldrider]

Originally Posted by bwringer

I have a set of 705s on my Vee, and I love them.

They're about the "knobbliest" tires you can get besides the Conti TKC knobs, and they work quite well on gravel and dirt. Nothing in the world will save a big heavy bike like a V-Strom in sand and mud, but fortunately I have the sense to stay off the dunes and out of the deeper mud holes.

And on the pavement, I can happily carve corners with the peg feelers sparking merrily all the way.

For $120 - $125 a set delivered, call me extremely satisfied.

I notice that several people have commented negatively on the 99mph Q speed rating -- they seem to honestly believe that the tires will instantly disintegrate or turn red or something the moment you exceed 100mph.

I'd like to point out that this belief is pure horseshit, of course, and betrays a complete lack of understanding about what tire speed ratings are and how they work.

There's no need to back gingerly out of the throttle at 99mph. Unless you're blasting Montana interstates at 120mph+ all day when it's over 100 degrees and you're hauling anvils, don't give it a second thought.

The emphasis is on "sustained" excess but I bought the Shinko's with their Q rating to help me get consciously down to speeds where the guy's with the disco lights up top, won't keep asking me for donations!

There is always more than one way to skin a cat!

Your comment about "gingerly" backing off the throttle amused me! I may be old but I'm not dead yet! Cheers, John.

[blktopburner]

This has got to be one of the most interesting "TIRE" Threads Ever....

I've noticed that there are a lot of comments about the 33* tire pressure....well my rear 150/70 is stamped with 33* but my front 130/80 is marked 41* ????????????

But from reading and practical experience I'm using 33* at both ends for a while.... Has anybody else seen the 41* tires?? or could this be a newer improved version that is "Rumored" ???

When I decided to go with Shinko's...the rear was a fairly easy decision , but to put a rear type tire size on the front of my light Multistrada 620 caused great distress !! I just didn't think it would work ....even with my aftermarket raised Acerbis Motard front fender.......But it worked great......with even more Mod's to the fender....[ still get a little fender rub on heavy braking tho !!]



Going from a 120/60 to a 130/80-17"....a true "MadMax" Look !! And I was able to reattach my mud flap after cutting off the rear grill looking part of the fender and it comes down to the valve cover level of my horizontal cylinder...need an updated pic of that......But will probly' go with progressive fork springs to help with the Dive....which is a problem to some degree .

My bike weighs right over 400lbs., going forth be sure to reply with your model and/or bike weight....so we will know....I think the lighter bikes will have greater success with this Tire going forward.......[ I like riding in the rain also]

[Oh2RideMore]

Chapparal did have the tire in stock. Going to take off the plugged rear, patch it from inside, and use as my spare tire on spare rim. New tire will be mounted on good rim, and I will be back in business. Temps in single digits now, am riding tomorrow on old tkc rear and 705 front.

[smilin jack]

The DR has a Shinko 705 since summer, now with 7K miles on it. Not yet 1/2 worn, but I don't spin the tire, so it lasts... longer.

Put a Shinko 705 on the front recently and the bike handles great with the same kind of tire both ends. 90/90x21" front and 120/90-17" rear.

Happy with the tires and would buy more when needed. For the $$$ they work great. Believe they are listed 80/20 dual-sport.

Here's a picture of the rear tire at 7K miles (also the chainsaw carry tool).

Dave