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Old 06-24-2010, 04:01 PM   #2911
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Is this a procedure that will be done on-the-fly? Probably not. What's a couple of fasteners to undo while packing and prepping the bike for a long tour? Still, it'll probably be a deal killer for some.

That ST12 looks very cool set up with the solo saddle.
Deal killer for some? maybe, but not for me.

However, the pillion deck is lower than the rear luggage rack, it would have been better if it was all the same height, because you now have 2 elevated grab handles on both sides of the pillion deck. I'd just leave the seat on when I strap my big dry bag there.
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:17 PM   #2912
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... the pillion deck is lower than the rear luggage rack, it would have been better if it was all the same height, because you now have 2 elevated grab handles on both sides of the pillion deck. I'd just leave the seat on when I strap my big dry bag there.
Yeah, I noticed that - I think I'd do the same - if Yamaha would give me the chance.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:17 PM   #2913
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Deal killer for some? maybe, but not for me.

However, the pillion deck is lower than the rear luggage rack, it would have been better if it was all the same height, because you now have 2 elevated grab handles on both sides of the pillion deck. I'd just leave the seat on when I strap my big dry bag there.
Page 3-31 of owners manual available here http://ymenvom.nl/manuals/U23PE0.PDF describes an additional carrier under the pillion seat that appears from the diagram when attached makes a level surface with the rear rack.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:05 AM   #2914
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Page 3-31 of owners manual available here http://ymenvom.nl/manuals/U23PE0.PDF describes an additional carrier under the pillion seat that appears from the diagram when attached makes a level surface with the rear rack.
What i've understood from one of the testers you can lower the aft-carrier, so front seat additional carrier and aft carrier form a uniform platform, but you need to remove the pillion handlebars, makes sense, you will not carry any pillion then...
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:37 AM   #2915
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Hi all,
just got the call from Yamaha in Sydney.... A super tenere is in the shop and ready for demo ride tomorrow (saturday)...Bugga. I've got to go to canberra for a rugby comp.. have to wait till Monday for a ride. ...but I'm going to keep a clear head as I really like the looks of the GSA beemers as well (2nd hand mind you as I cant spend that much money on a new bike ).

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Old 06-25-2010, 05:35 AM   #2916
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Horseman, be sure to give your impressions.

There's been some comments about the stock Yamaha screen being lousy.

This is the screen that should do the trick once Givi makes one for the S10:

http://www.givi.co.uk/Screens--spoilers/AIRFLOW/AF330
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:54 AM   #2917
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I test rode the S10 in West Aus today...

I have been discussing this bike with my local Yamaha dealer (also personal friend) and we have both been eagerly awaiting its delivery to Perth. Well it came in yesterday and was pd'd this morning just in time for me to throw a leg over it for a 30km ride in three sections.

To back track two weeks ago, I managed to secure a demo 2010 BMW GSA for the weekend and put over 700kms on it before taking it back to the dealer on monday.
I very much enjoyed the weekends riding but was a little put off by the very tall seat (although I am 5'11" with long legs) and the enormous weight specially with the tank filled for a 500km stint.

The Super Tenere exhibits none of that feeling of being a heavy weight...
It has a more comfortable seat, less vibrations, feels like more grunt (although I didnt feed it too much because the bike is not run in).
Ergonomics felt better and more planted on the road under exceleration coming onto the freeway on ramps... One area where the GSA would wobble its head as the front end unloaded.
Ohh, and it feels SHIT-LOADS lighter..

I was so impressed with the S10 that I placed the order as soon as I got back to the bike shop and topped it up with the full house of goodies,, heated grips, front bar, aux lights three luggage boxes and liner bags, headlight cover, tank cover, tank bag, alloy case pan... etc etc.

I wish I could write more but I am not the journo type and for the life of me cannot upload the pics that I took while I was out today.

If you have been waiting for these to arrive (like I have) before choosing between the adventure tourers on offer, you simply must test ride one of these.... I will just about bet that you will choose the Yamaha over the BMW.

P.S - Im getting a bit of a sweet deal from the mate on the S10, but even if I was to compare the normal price of this bike (S10 with all the fruit) compared to the 2010 BMW GSA the price in Perth would be:
Yahama with 3 boxes + heated grips + guards, lights, and pan $AU24,000 taxes paid ride away.
BMW GSA same level of appointment $AU34,000. Go figure..

I dare you to ride both, and buy the Beemer...

Did I mention how much lighter the S10 feels compared to the BMW?

Greg.

P.S - How the Ferk do you post pics???
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:14 AM   #2918
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But, will it ever make it to the US?
According to the Yamaha US district sales manager.... not for 2010
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:25 AM   #2919
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Let Yamaha know you want one.

Send Yamaha a message. Let 'em know the North American Market is ready and willing to buy.
If enough interest is generated, maybe they'll take the gamble.

Yamaha may be contacted at:

Henio Arcangeli Jr.
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Maybe. Big maybe. Maybe as in indistinguishable from zero.

When I worked for a distributor, they did not put much into unsolicited letters from riders, and we did receive a lot of them. They, Yamaha marketing, did listen a little to the demands of dealers through their district manager network, but only a little. The district managers tended to give conflicting inputs since they were regionally oriented (in the south they wanted more chrome and that sort of thing). Yamaha tended to be a market follower, waiting for another manufacturer to introduce a bold concept and then two years later, Yamaha would maybe provide a comparable offering if the new concept had been a market success. So don't expect Yamaha Motors US to respond to just 10,000 enthusiast letters saying "I want one." Word has it that dual-sport bikes are not on the radar for North America because.... the market is so small. Rabid, but small. And the market for all bikes is down right now so the possibility of market risks by Yamaha US is ... don't bet on it.

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Old 06-25-2010, 09:30 AM   #2920
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II dare you to ride both, and buy the Beemer...

Did I mention how much lighter the S10 feels compared to the BMW?

Greg.

P.S - How the Ferk do you post pics???
Lucky you! Thanks for the review..

That does it.. I'm ready to buy without a test ride and that would be the first bike I ever buy without a test ride, if it comes to that. Waiting for an official announcement in Sept. from Yamaha Canada.. they'd better be bringing this bike here next year.

To post pics, look here:

Attachments don't work, you need to host your pics on a pic hosting site and then link them to your report.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...66&postcount=1

Congrats on your purchase

When you get the bike, please post pics here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592384
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:33 AM   #2921
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Word has it that dual-sport bikes are not on the radar for North America because.... the market is so small. Rabid, but small.
Really enjoyed your viewpoint, well written !

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:26 AM   #2922
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Yamaha tended to be a market follower, waiting for another manufacturer to introduce a bold concept
Thats B...

XS650 XT500 XV750 SRX600 XTZ750 TDM850 FZ750 V-Max R-1 MT-01 just to name a few of the radical starters of complete new breeds of motorcycles...
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:45 PM   #2923
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I have been discussing this bike with my local Yamaha dealer (also personal friend) and we have both been eagerly awaiting its delivery to Perth. Well it came in yesterday and was pd'd this morning just in time for me to throw a leg over it for a 30km ride in three sections.

To back track two weeks ago, I managed to secure a demo 2010 BMW GSA for the weekend and put over 700kms on it before taking it back to the dealer on monday.
I very much enjoyed the weekends riding but was a little put off by the very tall seat (although I am 5'11" with long legs) and the enormous weight specially with the tank filled for a 500km stint.

The Super Tenere exhibits none of that feeling of being a heavy weight...
It has a more comfortable seat, less vibrations, feels like more grunt (although I didnt feed it too much because the bike is not run in).
Ergonomics felt better and more planted on the road under exceleration coming onto the freeway on ramps... One area where the GSA would wobble its head as the front end unloaded.
Ohh, and it feels SHIT-LOADS lighter..

I was so impressed with the S10 that I placed the order as soon as I got back to the bike shop and topped it up with the full house of goodies,, heated grips, front bar, aux lights three luggage boxes and liner bags, headlight cover, tank cover, tank bag, alloy case pan... etc etc.

I wish I could write more but I am not the journo type and for the life of me cannot upload the pics that I took while I was out today.

If you have been waiting for these to arrive (like I have) before choosing between the adventure tourers on offer, you simply must test ride one of these.... I will just about bet that you will choose the Yamaha over the BMW.

P.S - Im getting a bit of a sweet deal from the mate on the S10, but even if I was to compare the normal price of this bike (S10 with all the fruit) compared to the 2010 BMW GSA the price in Perth would be:
Yahama with 3 boxes + heated grips + guards, lights, and pan $AU24,000 taxes paid ride away.
BMW GSA same level of appointment $AU34,000. Go figure..

I dare you to ride both, and buy the Beemer...

Did I mention how much lighter the S10 feels compared to the BMW?

Greg.

P.S - How the Ferk do you post pics???
Thats great to hear.
Wonder how much of a trade in I would get for my Vee Strom 1000
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:32 PM   #2924
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Thats B...

XS650 XT500 XV750 SRX600 XTZ750 TDM850 FZ750 V-Max R-1 MT-01 just to name a few of the radical starters of complete new breeds of motorcycles...
These "who copied who" discussions are generally silly and tiring, but I do have to note that the very first motorcycle you list above (the XS650) was essentially a OHC clone of the Triumph 650 Bonneville.

However, I agree with your basic premise - I do think of Yamaha as one of the more innovative mfgs, especially for the Japanese. It took some guts for them to bring to market bikes like the SRX600, XZ550 (Vision), GTS1000, TDM850, and XV920. They also got their ass handed to them on most of these bikes, which is a big reason they're so gun-shy these days.

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Old 06-26-2010, 11:45 AM   #2925
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These "who copied who" discussions are generally silly and tiring, but I do have to note that the very first motorcycle you list above (the XS650) was essentially a OHC clone of the Triumph 650 Bonneville.
Nope they took a BSA, sorry, first check the facts.
A motor concept is nevver new, in the first years every concept was checked, BMW said the lying flat four was their invention, but well, there was en flat four long before there was BMW flat twins...

ut that was not my point, my point is Yamaha *started* meny a trend, especially the Custom trend with the XS650SE and the first V-Twin Custom XV750, The XT was essentially also a late copy of a BSA, but look what it started !

And now we have the Super Tenere, a back to the essence Travelbike, not a sportbike in offroad travesty, but a real longdistance runaway.

I can't wait to parc it next to al his family here in Mheer :-)



Its Granddad the '76 500



My misses Mr.Bean machine.



And Syl's Flying Flat


Even the Dull Greay ghost looks nice when accustomed to it:




There will be a lot of ex-racers verry disapointed with the Tenere, because it aint no crossdressing hypermotard, but people who want to ride like a king where ever there is or isn't a road until the sunset, the Tenere will be the King of the Hill and al other mountains all around the world.

Riding 10 or 12 hours a day for weeks on end, who wants to leave that sumptious saddle, who can turn the switch when the motor is purring like a cheshire cat to go through a new lookingglass ?

Turkey here we come :-)
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