Husaberg Rallye bikes

[TheDog]

Originally Posted by SafariBerg

cool, so Bjorn is back in the rallye saddle on a berg again

both 650's ?

Yes, It´s the same 'ol 650 that run once more in the Tuareg Rally 2011, Morocco.
This time I'll replace the Meca tower and fairing with a standard KTM/Husaberg triple clamp mounted bracket. LESS IS ABSOLUTELY MORE!

[troy safari carpente]

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Originally Posted by Pilbara
I seem to recall talking or hearing Annie talking about it during the Safari a couple of years ago. Don't recall the detail but I seem to remember her commenting to me at a check point or somewhere about how 'she was not used to it' and was said in some negative tone. I am sure SafariBerg will set the record straight here though.

I would see a high amount of steered inertia from all that equipment especially being so far from the turning axis.

Quote: SafariBerg; Yes in 2009 Safari we went with a smallish triple clamp mounted fairing and nav gear set up. While the riders Annie, David Schwarz & Andrew Coaker said it was ok they all felt it made the steering noticeably heavier



For 2010 Safari I asked the riders, Annie & David again as well as Ze Helio for their preferred set up, options being

1. Dakar style fairing head stem mounted - like Mecasystem ones
2. 2009 Safari small fairing again
3. enduro lights with bar mounted nav gear - al la GHR

All 3 said they wanted light simple enduro style set up



This worked well, BUT again at the end of the event all 3 riders commented that they still felt it on the bars compared to the Dakar style stem mounted fairings they had all used a lot before.


So for 2011 Safari it will be a hybrid, reduced Mecasystem fairing mount bracket off the head stem with enduro light & mask plus nav gear = light simple cockpit to KISS and mounted off the frame not the steering



So far we have tried the 2 set ups above and the more traditional Dakar style, this is the Mecasystem nav mounts & fairing from their KTM530 kit which pretty much bolts on.



So I hink the hybrid will be a best of both worlds hopefully

[troy safari carpente]

[mookymoo]

Originally Posted by troy safari carpente

SafariBerg, Troy
How have these rear tanks held up in so far as maintaining their shape in the heat/sun? Any issues with them changing shape/growing/becoming difficult to mount again?

It seems to be a quite frequent complaint with various sorts of Aqualine tanks. Just wondering what the experience has been so far with these rear tanks.

[troy safari carpente]

Originally Posted by mookymoo

SafariBerg, Troy
How have these rear tanks held up in so far as maintaining their shape in the heat/sun? Any issues with them changing shape/growing/becoming difficult to mount again?

It seems to be a quite frequent complaint with various sorts of Aqualine tanks. Just wondering what the experience has been so far with these rear tanks.

The complaints (I've heard/read about) with regard to Safari/Aqualine tanks changing form/expanding/difficulties with re-mounting etc. have (in my experience) been mostly to do with those two VERY large capacity (44 liter and 30 liter versions) front tanks they produced for the 950/990 Adv and 950 SE respectively...

Not an excuse; but more an explanation for this; could be the extremely large volume of the tanks (in relation to motorcycle application) coupled with the fact that they are mounted above the engine, and many been used in very hot desert climate (air temps of 35 degree C +). The combination of wieght, heat and fuel expansion could account perhaps for the excessive "stretch factor". But to be honest... I've seen similar happen with other brand large capacity aftermarket plastic tanks in desert temperatures as well... as far back as the 80's and 90's.

I believe that some changes to the early production runs was made to address some of theses issues... what the result (improvement) has been I am not sure.

With regards to the REAR tanks you enquire; Safari/Aqualine make rear subframe tanks for the EXC, WRF, CRF and now FE Husa bikes, similar in principle to those pictured above. All are around the 8 to 10 liter mark there abouts and mount away from any direct heat source (an aluminium/carbon slip on sliencer generates nowhere near the heat of an engine). As such there is nowhere near the weight/heat factors placed on these tanks and as yet; I am not aware of any major expansion/fitment problems... but SafariBerg (who has run them on his team bikes at the 2009 and 2010 Australian Safari's) will be able to give some more detail.

[SafariBerg]

Originally Posted by mookymoo

SafariBerg, Troy
How have these rear tanks held up in so far as maintaining their shape in the heat/sun? Any issues with them changing shape/growing/becoming difficult to mount again?
.

Originally Posted by troy safari carpente

With regards to the REAR tanks you enquire; Safari/Aqualine make rear subframe tanks for the EXC, WRF, CRF and now FE Husa bikes, similar in principle to those pictured above. All are around the 8 to 10 liter mark there abouts and mount away from any direct heat source (an aluminium/carbon slip on sliencer generates nowhere near the heat of an engine). As such there is nowhere near the weight/heat factors placed on these tanks and as yet; I am not aware of any major expansion/fitment problems... but SafariBerg (who has run them on his team bikes at the 2009 and 2010 Australian Safari's) will be able to give some more detail.

yeah as Troy mentions we have now used them since Safari 2009, a bit under 50,000km all up, we have had no issues with any of the tanks changing shape etc front or rear and have swapped them between bikes a number of times. I think given the couple of major crashes that have occured that the tanks are very destructo proof, the mount brackets also are top quality. A couple of the tank sets this year did last year as well so individual tanks now have around 10,000km on them and I would happily use them for the next couple of years

[David P.]

Some pics of Ronnie Bodingers and Thomas Berglunds lovely Dakar Husabergs. We have helped them out by supplying our navigation brackets and mufflers for these bikes. The fairings are not yet done, but they almost look better like this..

[SafariBerg]

Originally Posted by David P.

Some pics of Ronnie Bodingers and Thomas Berglunds lovely Dakar Husabergs. We have helped them out by supplying our navigation brackets and mufflers for these bikes. The fairings are not yet done, but they almost look better like this..

Looks like the stock radiators ?
is there 2 fans ?

also I can see what appear to be 2 oil coolers ? a 690 style one and a cylinder style behind it ? how much oil does the system now hold ?

is it the stock headlight ?

I can see the bikes are running a 320mm front disc, we ran a 310mm disc off the KTM 690R on Ze Helio's bike and he found it a very worth while upgrade, so the 320mm should do the trick

only the stock rear wheel ? no cush hub ?

stock 22mm offset clamps ?

[mookymoo]

Originally Posted by troy safari carpente

The complaints (I've heard/read about) with regard to Safari/Aqualine tanks changing form/expanding/difficulties with re-mounting etc. have (in my experience) been mostly to do with those two VERY large capacity (44 liter and 30 liter versions) front tanks they produced for the 950/990 Adv and 950 SE respectively...

Sure. The have been many reports of issues with the big 950/990A tanks.

However, more recently I was reading this : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=55 and the same subject cropped up.

[troy safari carpente]

Originally Posted by mookymoo

However, more recently I was reading this : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=55 and the same subject cropped up.

Well there you go... though I notice Jen (still) has the same tank mounted on her WRF in readiness for the 2011 DAKAR?

[mookymoo]

Originally Posted by troy safari carpente

Well there you go... though I notice Jen (still) has the same tank mounted on her WRF in readiness for the 2011 DAKAR?

I think its a couple of posts later in that thread - kept it on due to concern about fuel range ...

[SafariBerg]

Originally Posted by mookymoo

Sure. The have been many reports of issues with the big 950/990A tanks.

However, more recently I was reading this : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=55 and the same subject cropped up.

maybe the way the Berg one attaches is a bit different ? we certainly havent seen any issues re-fitting after having them off the bikes for awhile or swapping them between different bikes

[David P.]

Originally Posted by SafariBerg

Looks like the stock radiators ?
is there 2 fans ?

also I can see what appear to be 2 oil coolers ? a 690 style one and a cylinder style behind it ? how much oil does the system now hold ?

is it the stock headlight ?

I can see the bikes are running a 320mm front disc, we ran a 310mm disc off the KTM 690R on Ze Helio's bike and he found it a very worth while upgrade, so the 320mm should do the trick

only the stock rear wheel ? no cush hub ?

stock 22mm offset clamps ?

This is Bodingers bike which uses many stock components, I think Thomas´ bike will differ a bit. It's being built as we speak and will be flown over the pond mid-december.

It's an oil cooler and an extra oil filter underneath the nav bracket which also uses the stock light. Can't tell you how much extra oil I'm afraid.

[Seth S]

Originally Posted by mookymoo

Sure. The have been many reports of issues with the big 950/990A tanks.

However, more recently I was reading this : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=55 and the same subject cropped up.

I think a lot of those cases were where people pulled the tanks off for a fair amount of time and the tanks had a chance to warm up and distort. It could have also been a certain batch of tanks. I've had the tanks off my old adventure for months at a time during the winter and had no realignment issues. But the tanks were resting in such a way as to not be loaded oddly and it was cold and out of the sunlight.

[David P.]

A few pics of the "finished" bike. Wonderfully nimble and purposeful!