BMW at the DAKAR - Page 7

Billy.B.F. · 10-25-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PPiA

Gotta say, out of all the 450's, the Speedbrain BMW pushes my buttons the most

Yep, what gets me the most is the height (or lack thereof) at which it carries its fuel - makes a lot of other rallye setups look poorly designed.

Hayduke · 10-25-2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PPiA

Gotta say, out of all the 450's, the Speedbrain BMW pushes my buttons the most

It is a beautiful bike; it just looks light and small.

Deadly99 · 10-25-2010, 09:17 AM

Light and small isn't always a plus I'd imaginbe for a race like the Dakar. There is ALOT of road riding in the liassons. A heavier bike will be easy to ride (wind, etc). Riding one of these small 450's for 10, 000 km's must be freaking grueling, much more so than a larger bike (excluding the timed sections).

Just a thought

crankshaft · 10-25-2010, 09:48 AM

That 450X Rally bike is hot, I've been smitten for awhile

Looking forward to seeing how it does in the Dakar with Factory support.

CodeMonkee · 10-29-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by schattat

For those interested in some detail shots from the Intermot here in Germany a few days ago:

Wow. That is a work of art - in more ways than one. Beautiful.

ArthDuro · 11-09-2010, 08:46 AM

PPiA · 11-10-2010, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly99

Light and small isn't always a plus I'd imaginbe for a race like the Dakar. There is ALOT of road riding in the liassons. A heavier bike will be easy to ride (wind, etc). Riding one of these small 450's for 10, 000 km's must be freaking grueling, much more so than a larger bike (excluding the timed sections).

Just a thought

Nothing hard about riding down the road.
The lighter bikes come into their own off road when you have to get physical with them, which is the major part of your day.

schattat · 12-16-2010, 09:10 AM

Frétigné still a ???

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Well prepared to enter the Dakar adventure

13 December 2010 15:35

The Dakar 2011 is approaching fast for Team "BMW Motorrad by speedbrain". As bikes and equipment are on their way by sea to South America , the 14-men squad under the guidance of team principal Wolfgang Fischer feels well prepared for their debut appearance in the rally legend.

The race gets underway on 1 January 2011 in Buenos Aires. Four riders will compete aboard speedbrain BMW G 450 RR motorcyles, having secured backing from BMW Motorrad and Monster Energy.

Rally routinier Frans Verhoeven, who has been developing the bike all throughout 2010, provided major input when it came to building a competitive race weapon based on the BMW 450 X. Being a multiple stage winner, the Dutchman has a lot of experience regarding the Dakar. He´s certainly a top rider to reckon with.

David Frétigné unfortunately is a questionmark. The Frenchman injured himself during the Rally Oil Libya Maroc and, although making good progress, will have to see whether doctors give green lights to compete. This may only happen shortly before the start. Meanwhile Jose Helio Gonçalves Rodrigues Filho, also know under the name "Ze Helio", sits in standby mode. The Brazilian already rode for speedbrain in the Rally dos Sertoes. The multi-time rally champ has a lot of knowledge from racing all over South America, he could make an excellent replacement.

Paulo Goncalves and Pedro Bianchi Prata from Portugal complete Team "BMW Motorrad by speedbrain". While Bianchi Prata performs sometimes a back up supporting role for his team pilots, Goncalves is an eventual front-runner. The former Motocross ace has shown several times before that he can go pretty quick on a rally bike. Goncalves finished the Portimao-Marrakesch 2010 on the podium.

The nearly 6,000 mile long Dakar 2011 does its best to create the thrill and challenges which the previous editions have presented since the beginning in 1979. The Argentina/Chile route consists of everything from sand dunes to mountainous conditions: over the plains of Patagonia, across the Atacama Desert and through the Andes Mountains (all in the heat of summer south of the equator).

Team „BMW Motorrad by Speedbrain" is working closely with Team Monster Energy X-Raid, which is entering the Dakar 2011 with BMW X3 and Mini All4 race cars. Both teams are using synergy effects in the logistics.

The race ends in Buenos Aires on 16 January.

SafariBerg · 12-16-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by schattat

Frétigné still a ???

He is out, Ze Heilo is riding his bike, bummer for Fretigne

BUT a big WOOOOHOOOO for Ze

zenjen · 12-16-2010, 04:39 PM

Go! Ze Go!

Will he run the #12?

italrally · 12-17-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SafariBerg

He is out, Ze Heilo is riding his bike, bummer for Fretigne

BUT a big WOOOOHOOOO for Ze

from google translation from the bike mag: " moto verte"

News Fretigne

Convalescence Express David Fretigne who still hopes to participate in the Dakar 2011. Decision on December 23. © JM Pouget

Seriously injured in the Morocco Rally, David Fretigne is since October convalescing. He gave us some news on his health and his chances to participate in the Dakar 2011.
Mainly affected the vertebrae and ribs, neo-BMW driver had to support three full weeks of immobility. But since mid-November, he started his rehabilitation at the center of Perpignan Présports with the help of his coach Christian Millet. Despite the seriousness of his wounds, calcification of his ribs was fast, which allowed him to regain some mobility. Under the eye of Dr. Christian Fournols, it has started swimming, bike room and forced himself on several sets of pumps each day in addition to long sessions of physiotherapy. "These days I found my strength almost before the crash. I'm as much of pumps!" We said No. 3 of the Dakar 2010.

Decision on December 23
Yet if his ribs do suffer more, the affected vertebrae are currently weak, especially at the apophyses not yet fully rewelded. The decision whether to participate in the Dakar 2011 has been postponed to 23 December. "From my side, I am confident. I'm all for it, " concluded David recovered more than ever.
JMP

Pilbara · 01-16-2011, 06:06 AM

I asked this question else where and this thread appears to have given me the answer. I asked if the speedbrain bikes used a cush drive...the photos in this thread seem to indicate they did not. It has been my understanding that cush drive was always a given for rally bikes, or is this only on the larger capacities?

How many of the 450s of other makes ran cush drives...any?

I also heard somewhere that Verhoven's 450 had a 6 speed box, he was clocked with the highest speed on the last stage. Any insights here would be useful.

Cheers
Pilbara

tehdutchie · 01-16-2011, 06:43 AM

They added a 6th gear, running a 47 rear sprocket on that stage.

Dont know about the cush drive on the BMW, Aprilia dont use it if memory serves me well. Cush drive is more comfy, thats about it i'd say. Might introduce an extra chance of failure with those rubber blocks..

schattat · 01-16-2011, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilbara

I asked this question else where and this thread appears to have given me the answer. I asked if the speedbrain bikes used a cush drive...the photos in this thread seem to indicate they did not. It has been my understanding that cush drive was always a given for rally bikes, or is this only on the larger capacities?

How many of the 450s of other makes ran cush drives...any?

I also heard somewhere that Verhoven's 450 had a 6 speed box, he was clocked with the highest speed on the last stage. Any insights here would be useful.

Cheers
Pilbara

Hi Kelvin

I can't say for sure whether they use a cush-drive, best to check out their picture gallery here: http://www.speedbrain-rally.com/inde...ories&Itemid=3

Verhoeven did, however, tell me they went the extra mile and redesigned the gearbox to fit a 6th gear which would allow a top speed of something like 185km/h

If you don't already know they also fitted a new left hand side cover from the new Husky that increases the oil capacity a bit and allows for an oil filter to be fitted:

buspilot · 01-16-2011, 09:08 AM

Correct Tony, and for the last stage Frans asked his mechanic Boy to use a 47 teeth rear-sprocket

10-25-2010, 09:17 AM	#93
Deadly99 Fast and Far Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Merrickville, Canada Oddometer: 6,879	Light and small isn't always a plus I'd imaginbe for a race like the Dakar. There is ALOT of road riding in the liassons. A heavier bike will be easy to ride (wind, etc). Riding one of these small 450's for 10, 000 km's must be freaking grueling, much more so than a larger bike (excluding the timed sections). Just a thought __________________ *www.GravelTravel.ca Canadas Source For Overland Routes* Tales From The Bivouac Rally Print Publications *TCAT Trans Canadian Adventure Trail 15, 000 km GPS route across Canada*

10-25-2010, 09:48 AM	#94
crankshaft Guns are for pussies Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Burlingtron,VT Oddometer: 13,783	That 450X Rally bike is hot, I've been smitten for awhile Looking forward to seeing how it does in the Dakar with Factory support. __________________ Just say'IN

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01-16-2011, 06:06 AM	#102
Pilbara In the flow... Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Shire of East Pilbara - The worlds largest shire Oddometer: 1,513	Rally proofed I asked this question else where and this thread appears to have given me the answer. I asked if the speedbrain bikes used a cush drive...the photos in this thread seem to indicate they did not. It has been my understanding that cush drive was always a given for rally bikes, or is this only on the larger capacities? How many of the 450s of other makes ran cush drives...any? I also heard somewhere that Verhoven's 450 had a 6 speed box, he was clocked with the highest speed on the last stage. Any insights here would be useful. Cheers Pilbara

01-16-2011, 09:08 AM	#105
buspilot Dr. Dirt Joined: Oct 2007 Location: In the Mud Oddometer: 41	Correct Tony, and for the last stage Frans asked his mechanic Boy to use a 47 teeth rear-sprocket __________________ It's never too late to have a lucky childhood! My travels, my pics, my site: http://www.dr-dirt.de

12-16-2010, 04:39 PM	#100
zenjen Go Outside Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Quartz Mtn. West end of the Wichitas Oddometer: 2,403	Go! Ze Go! Will he run the #12?

01-16-2011, 06:43 AM	#103
tehdutchie Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Amsterdam or on Twitter @antal Oddometer: 1,384	They added a 6th gear, running a 47 rear sprocket on that stage. Dont know about the cush drive on the BMW, Aprilia dont use it if memory serves me well. Cush drive is more comfy, thats about it i'd say. Might introduce an extra chance of failure with those rubber blocks..

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