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Old 02-01-2011, 02:58 PM   #16
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Will probably be heavier and slower than the Triumph as well. Although I must admit that I really liked the V7 in person...
The V7 Classic is 50 lbs lighter than the Triumph Scrambler (400 vs 450lbs) so this one should be about the same. The Guzzi Has about 10 less hp than the Triumph (49 claimed vs 59 claimed) so with the weight difference is somewhat, but not much slower than the Triumph.

The Guzzi can keep up with more throttle, and sounds great when opened up. Probably the best sounding stock exhaust on a motorcycle today.

They're both a treat to ride.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:15 PM   #17
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:34 PM   #18
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:46 AM   #19
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Can anybody guess how large the gas tank might be? I like the prospects that the bike might be lighter than a scrambler.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:09 AM   #20
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Can anybody guess how large the gas tank might be? I like the prospects that the bike might be lighter than a scrambler.
If its the same as the standard V7, and it looks like it is, then its listed as 4.5 gal (U.S.).
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:22 AM   #21
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The more I look at this the more it appears to be a different exhaust system, tires, fenders and maybe tank? Am I missing something (don't get me wrong I still need one)

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Old 02-02-2011, 11:01 AM   #22
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And I thought the V7 Cafe was the best looking Guzzi. I was wrong.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:04 AM   #23
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The more I look at this the more it appears to be a different exhaust system, tires, fenders and maybe tank? Am I missing something (don't get me wrong I still need one)
Tank is the same as the V7C anc V7CC. Just add knee pads and a different (flip top) fuel cap.
Fenders are different. Chrome.
Seat is different. Flat
Valve covers are different. Old style, smooth.
Rear shocks appear to be much longer. Can't really tell on the forks.
Sidecovers are different. Smooth.
Handlebars are higher than those of the V7C.
Headlight appears to have speedo in it. Probably just for the showbike, but we can hope.
Then, there's the obvious scrambler exhaust. Arrow on the showbike.
Tires are Pirelli Scorpion.
Wheels appear to be stock V7C.

Basically, it appears to be made-over about like the Triumph Scrambler is made-over from a base Bonneville...
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:10 AM   #24
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thanks.. My main thoughts were around.. if I picked up a 'cheap' 09, could it be converted .... I thought about the rear shocks but then decided it might just be a product of the centre stand..
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:41 PM   #25
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The V7 Classic is 50 lbs lighter than the Triumph Scrambler (400 vs 450lbs) so this one should be about the same. The Guzzi Has about 10 less hp than the Triumph (49 claimed vs 59 claimed) so with the weight difference is somewhat, but not much slower than the Triumph.

The Guzzi can keep up with more throttle, and sounds great when opened up. Probably the best sounding stock exhaust on a motorcycle today.

They're both a treat to ride.
If you own both those bikes, you are one lucky SOB!
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:40 AM   #26
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I any of you doubt the the smallblock 750 as a viable motor, remember that the essential design of this mill is decades old, and after owning several high horsepower bikes over the years, I have to rank the little Guzzi as one of the most satisfying rides ever. The torque delivery and feel is truly addicting.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:30 AM   #27
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A much better picture.

Looks to me like they're making the same mistake as Triumph. i.e. short travel, cheap suspension which compromises ride quality and off road ability. So, it's just a cynical styling exercise to make use of common parts.....like the Triumph Scrambler.
Of course, that does stop me taking my Scram onto the dirty bits.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttBoe..._order&list=UL

Also, that has to be the worst exhaust I've ever seen from Arrow.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:34 AM   #28
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25 years ago Guzzi built the V65TT and NTX - essentially the same as this new marketing exercise, minus fuel injection but with real off-road suspension, gearing and capability; my wife has a TT; she wonders why she should buy a new bike which offers no significant advantage or improvement?
Her TT is a nice foil for her bought-new-in-1981 V50 Monza - I can't see her swapping either for a more modern incarnation any time soon.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:47 AM   #29
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Looks to me like they're making the same mistake as Triumph. i.e. short travel, cheap suspension which compromises ride quality and off road ability. So, it's just a cynical styling exercise to make use of common parts.....like the Triumph Scrambler.
Of course, that does stop me taking my Scram onto the dirty bits.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttBoe..._order&list=UL

Also, that has to be the worst exhaust I've ever seen from Arrow.
It's a Scrambler..not an MX bike. You may consider it cynical but a lot of folks would think it's an entirely rational approach to inner city commuting or light touring/exploring looking at dams, mountain fire roads, abandoned railroad tracks and other rural excursions that don't need a bike with a 36" seat height and a foot of travel to see.

It would be a blast running Hydro-Quebec powerlines with and a LOT more comfortable connecting paved sections than any dirtbike. It's 140 miles to my friend's camp on Maidstone Lake in the NEK. I'd much rather ride something like this up I91 at 75mph for 2 hours than a knobby shod dirtbike.
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:45 AM   #30
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^^^You make a good point and I have to confess, one would look good doing it!
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