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Old 12-28-2010, 04:33 PM   #166
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Yea me neither. In over 50k miles of rough roads, uneven pavement, windy conditions, and passing trucks has the 1100GS felt anything less than rock steady.
Twitchy simply isn't in this bike's vocabulary.

I'll be leaving the money in the bank for a transmission upgrade some day when it's starts to skip.

Ok, if you have doubts about the effectiveness of a steering damper try this little experiment:

1. Find your favorite two lane twisty road and on a nice high speed sweeper place one 2x4 in the road, say 2 or 3 feet long.

2. Ride a bike without a steering damper and hit the 2x4 at 60+ MPH, preferably leaned over a bit. Do your best to stay loose and calm as the handlebars are nearly ripped out of your hands.

3. Ride the same bike with a steering damper over the same 2x4 at the same speed and lean as in #2. Notice how the handlebars stay relatively calm. Now ask yourself if the steering damper makes a difference.

Think this is an unrealistic experiment? Well this happened to me on the freeway on one of my bikes without a damper and I came very close to crashing in heavy commute traffic after hitting said 2x4 and having the handlebars yanked from my hands. I don't know how I managed to control the bike, but I was lucky the pavement was dry. It scared me to death. I too never thought I needed a steering damper until after that incident....

Headshake is not why I bought my damper, it is the ability to hit an object in the road and live to tell about it. If you have ever had a big tank slapper from hitting something you will know what I mean. I consider a steering damper a safety device, just like ABS. I'll never have a bike without one again.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:54 AM   #167
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Gotta say; Just today fitted a Hyperpro RSC to my well abused/looked after '04 1200. Went for a good flog around some local twisty tar/dirt roads and tracks....We are in love again!
I could never have imagined the improvement in what already is an incredibly stable motorcycle. I was able to seriously attack turns, both tar & dirt, under brakes, like I couldn't remember. Fookn' amazin!!
To the naysayers; TRY IT. (To those who have and say no diff; get a car...)

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Old 01-06-2011, 04:42 AM   #168
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something to consider

I recalled reading about this feature of the Scotts damper but their site explains it better, and I can reduce my typing.

From their website:

Why is our Stabilizer so much better than others?
One of our dampers most important features is that the Scotts Stabilizer only dampens as the handlebar turns away from center. The handlebar "free-valves" back to dead straight. That makes the bike want to go straight, all by itself. This is a huge advantage over other stabilizers. It also boasts a damping control this is adjustable on the fly. It only takes two seconds of one handed riding to change the damping, similar to the time it would take to pull the string on your roll-off lens. Even more importantly, the Scotts stabilizer has a "high-speed" damping adjustment, similar to the high speed adjustment in your shock. Since the stabilizer is literally a little shock absorber controlling the unwanted left to right motion of your bars, it only makes sense that you would want to have a circuit that absorbs the impacts that exceed the normal range of hits, similar to the high speed valving your shock. Most impacts and head-shake at the front wheel are high speed" movements, where on the other hand, turning is generally a low speed movement. If you don't like the feeling the stabilizer provides in turns or while flying a SX jump, you can adjust it out and still retain it’s ability to absorb high speed impacts. NO OTHER STABILIZER HAS THIS FEATURE. Why? Because it’s expensive to build and we own the patent on this concept. Not only is the damping rate and high speed circuit adjustable, but the arc of movement over which it operates is also adjustable, we call those sweep controls. So in summary, the Scotts Stabilizer has 3 fully adjustable circuits all of which are critical to any stabilizers ability to function correctly.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:55 PM   #169
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Question steering stop with HyperPro

I have an 08 GSA1200. Recently installed the Touratech steering stop. Does anyone know if the steering stop will interfer with the HyperPro install?
Where is the hyperpro installed....skill level??
Also, any suggestions for the best HyperPro price?
Thanks for any input.
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:59 PM   #170
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TT is OK

Look earlier in this thread; you'll find posts with pix. TT is OK, Wunderlich is not.
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I have an 08 GSA1200. Recently installed the Touratech steering stop. Does anyone know if the steering stop will interfer with the HyperPro install?
Where is the hyperpro installed....skill level??
Also, any suggestions for the best HyperPro price?
Thanks for any input.
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:56 AM   #171
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Gotta say; Just today fitted a Hyperpro RSC to my well abused/looked after '04 1200. Went for a good flog around some local twisty tar/dirt roads and tracks....We are in love again!
I could never have imagined the improvement in what already is an incredibly stable motorcycle. I was able to seriously attack turns, both tar & dirt, under brakes, like I couldn't remember. Fookn' amazin!!
To the naysayers; TRY IT. (To those who have and say no diff; get a car...)

Falling in love again......


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Old 01-26-2011, 12:59 PM   #172
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The "best $400 I have spent" is now more like $500 when you include shipping.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:11 PM   #173
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Old 01-29-2011, 01:56 PM   #174
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Yea me neither. In over 50k miles of rough roads, uneven pavement, windy conditions, and passing trucks has the 1100GS felt anything less than rock steady.
Twitchy simply isn't in this bike's vocabulary.

I'll be leaving the money in the bank for a transmission upgrade some day when it's starts to skip.
+1

As I read the thread I was begining to think I was not pushing my bike enough... Even though I am usually going the quickest and usually riding two up and more often that not I am over packed. This being said the bike is rock steady and compared to anything I have riden in the past. It is by far the most predictable bike I have ever riden. Most of my riding is on back roads and a little gravel and dirt. The bike is equiped with ESA and conti trail attacks.

In my opinion a stearing damper on a GS is kinda like tits on a bull...

However to each his own... If others believe it makes their bike better... I also believe it makes their bike better...

Like a placebo...


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Old 02-28-2011, 08:41 PM   #175
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I put on the Hyperpro stabilizer on over the weekend... Money well spent!
The bike handles sooo much better and stable at high speeds.

Less than 15 min to install, didn't require the dremel tool to make it fit and it's basically hidden. 9 clicks in totally smoothed out the shake above 85mph.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:35 PM   #176
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I just grabbed this one of ebay for under $500
V4 Version 4 GPRV4 Sport
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GPR-V...#ht_2286wt_930
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:42 PM   #177
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I just grabbed this one of ebay for under $500
V4 Version 4 GPRV4 Sport
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GPR-V...#ht_2286wt_930


Sweet
Very interested to know how you go with it, how the install goes and what you think
Please keep us posted
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:18 AM   #178
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I have a rallye moto going on tomorrow, and I'll let you know how the bike (08 GS) responds as the weekend comes and goes.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:25 AM   #179
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Why do you need a damper on a GS? I don't need or want one.....
Im intrested! I'dlike to get my "wobble" out of the frond end when i land after takeoff when crossing railwaycrossings at 80miles/h
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:06 AM   #180
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...the PO of my '05 GS did that very railroad crossing thing and tanked it. End result was me getting a salvaged R12GS that I otherwise could not a afford.
I never had a satbilzer on a bike outside what came on my 77RS so didn't know what I was missing. Now I have one on both my bikes, dirt and street.
The subtle benefits will outweigh the cost. In other words, you won't know what your missing until it's gone...
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