Schuberth Helmets for ADVRiders

[vespajg]

Is there any update as to when the new shipment of Hiviz will arrive?

thx

[BoochZilla]

Hey Vespa,

We will know more in the next 10 days. I spoke with Schuberth today.

Stay tuned. It's a waiting game from news from Germany.

Thanks,

Anthony

Originally Posted by vespajg

Is there any update as to when the new shipment of Hiviz will arrive?

thx

[ultrarnr]

I have looked on Schuberth's web site and there is no mention about battery life on the SRC. I think there was a previous post that mentioned about only 2-3 hours while listening to XM radio. This doesn't seem to be very practical if it is accurate for these systems. By comparison I have a G-4 than can last for over 11 hours while listening to XM. Just wondering what users of the SRC have found battery life to be. Thanks.

[DRTBYK]

Originally Posted by DRTBYK

While on tour last year in Africa, I was streaming MP3 music from my zumo GPS for about 3-4hrs a day. Charge usually lasted two days with the SRC on all of the time (~8hrs/day).

I'd think an SRC-System was having battery problems if it were only lasting a couple of hours on a charge.

[ADW]

Originally Posted by ultrarnr

I have looked on Schuberth's web site and there is no mention about battery life on the SRC. I think there was a previous post that mentioned about only 2-3 hours while listening to XM radio. This doesn't seem to be very practical if it is accurate for these systems. By comparison I have a G-4 than can last for over 11 hours while listening to XM. Just wondering what users of the SRC have found battery life to be. Thanks.

The Shuberth SRC system is essentially a Cardo Scala G4 that's integrated into the helmet package. The "mainstream" G4 has a claimed range of up to 1 mile, whereas the SRC has a claimed range of only roughly 1000 feet (300m).

Seems like a huge range decrease (1000 vs. 5000 feet) for a price premium ($300 for the SRC vs. $200 for a single G4). A couple buddies have new C3's with SRC and we/they tried them on a ride in the Tennessee mountains (Tellico) last weekend. Not really terribly impressed with the range. They might be acceptable on street rides, but for ADV rides with winding dirt roads and etc. they just didn't work well. I understand that even the G4 claim of a mile is probably a stretch, but still...900 feet wasn't at all a reasonable range. They were only good when you were within close sight distance of each other. If one guy went around the turn even 100 yards ahead of you, that was it...he was "gone" from the radio. A little better in straight line of sight, but not 900 feet (which isn't really very much separation distance for two bikes).

Hopefully Schuberth has an optional external antenna or something? 50% more money for 1/5 the range sounds like a pretty bad tradeoff. Boochzilla, since you're in contact with Shuberth can you ask them if they have a solution?

[ultrarnr]

I contacted Schuberth about the battery life question. Their response is it should last 10-12 hours of actual talk time. That sounds about in line with the G-4.
On the issue of range though. It seems they could mount a external antenna on the side of the helmet in such a way that it blends in with the helmet and is hardly noticeable unless you are looking closely at it. Just match the antenna covering based on the color of the helmet and have it flexible enough to follow the curves of the helmet. Maybe I am missing something here but it doesn't sound like it should be very difficult to do.

[BoochZilla]

Hey ADW,

I am supposed to have a call with the Schube's this week. I will ping them.

From my understanding, the range difference was a purposeful sacrifice. They built the SRC into the neck roll to eliminate the possibility of adding any additional noise and decrease in aerodynamics by bolting on any external elements.

At the apex price point most folks hold the quiet and streamline at the top of their list for reasons to pick up such an investment over a more everyday modular. I am not excited about the decrease in range, but I can understand the logic. Some have been affected by it and some have not, I can see in an offroad situation how it could be a line of sight issue.

BoochZilla

Originally Posted by ADW

The Shuberth SRC system is essentially a Cardo Scala G4 that's integrated into the helmet package. The "mainstream" G4 has a claimed range of up to 1 mile, whereas the SRC has a claimed range of only roughly 1000 feet (300m).

Seems like a huge range decrease (1000 vs. 5000 feet) for a price premium ($300 for the SRC vs. $200 for a single G4). A couple buddies have new C3's with SRC and we/they tried them on a ride in the Tennessee mountains (Tellico) last weekend. Not really terribly impressed with the range. They might be acceptable on street rides, but for ADV rides with winding dirt roads and etc. they just didn't work well. I understand that even the G4 claim of a mile is probably a stretch, but still...900 feet wasn't at all a reasonable range. They were only good when you were within close sight distance of each other. If one guy went around the turn even 100 yards ahead of you, that was it...he was "gone" from the radio. A little better in straight line of sight, but not 900 feet (which isn't really very much separation distance for two bikes).

Hopefully Schuberth has an optional external antenna or something? 50% more money for 1/5 the range sounds like a pretty bad tradeoff. Boochzilla, since you're in contact with Shuberth can you ask them if they have a solution?

[ADW]

Originally Posted by BoochZilla

Hey ADW,

I am supposed to have a call with the Schube's this week. I will ping them.

From my understanding, the range difference was a purposeful sacrifice. They built the SRC into the neck roll to eliminate the possibility of adding any additional noise and decrease in aerodynamics by bolting on any external elements.

At the apex price point most folks hold the quiet and streamline at the top of their list for reasons to pick up such an investment over a more everyday modular. I am not excited about the decrease in range, but I can understand the logic. Some have been affected by it and some have not, I can see in an offroad situation how it could be a line of sight issue.

BoochZilla

Yep, that's what I figured too, that it was a known tradeoff to keep their primary goals in line. But maybe, just maybe, they were smart enough to leave a way for some of their users to get better range? Will be interested to hear what they tell you. Thanks!!

[ride2live]

Anybody popped one of these camera mounts on your Schuberth yet? If so, where / how did you mount it? I want to attach mine for some test riding this weekend. (I know, the S manual says to attach nothing, even decals...)

[SeniorLennyPK]

I have the Olympia Airglide 3 jacket in the Hi-vis green/yellow. Will the Schuberth hi-vis yellow match o.k., or clash with this jacket???

[BoochZilla]

Hey Lenny,

The colors are not a perfect match as the Olympia is a slight hue of green and the C3 is more yellow, but we don't think they are so different that they will not work well together.

At the end of they day you will "glow".

Best,

Anthony

Originally Posted by SeniorLennyPK

I have the Olympia Airglide 3 jacket in the Hi-vis green/yellow. Will the Schuberth hi-vis yellow match o.k., or clash with this jacket???

[rschulte]

Anthony:

I see on your website how to be emailed when the hi-viz helmets come in, but I do not see how to preorder a hi- viz C3.

Is the hi-viz C3 available for preorder?

[BoochZilla]

Hey,

Thanks for the note. Online the best we can do is the notification. If you would like to place a pre-order, it has to be over the phone. Shoot us a call and any of our staff can knock it our for you. 877 792 9455

Thanks,

Anthony

Originally Posted by rschulte

Anthony:

I see on your website how to be emailed when the hi-viz helmets come in, but I do not see how to preorder a hi- viz C3.

Is the hi-viz C3 available for preorder?

[ADW]

Originally Posted by ADW

Yep, that's what I figured too, that it was a known tradeoff to keep their primary goals in line. But maybe, just maybe, they were smart enough to leave a way for some of their users to get better range? Will be interested to hear what they tell you. Thanks!!

Hi, Booch...did you have any discussion with Shuberth about the SRC range issue (and any ways to improve it)?

[BoochZilla]

Hey ADW,

We had to move our call as their leader in in Germany I believe. As soon as I know I will report back.

Thanks for the patience.

Anthony

Originally Posted by ADW

Hi, Booch...did you have any discussion with Shuberth about the SRC range issue (and any ways to improve it)?