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Old 04-23-2011, 07:00 PM   #91
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This guy in Russia decided to lay it down and it kinda worked.
Compared to what?

Keeping the throttle pinned until he impacted that truck? Yeah, in that regard laying it down worked.

But compared to just applying the brakes until he would come to a standstill many paces away from the truck? Hmm, not so much.
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:26 PM   #92
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I hate people I dont know fucking with my helmet...

If Im away from the bike it gets locked to the top case by the d-ring. The bike could get knocked over and the helmet wont hit the ground.
Unfortunately I don't have a top case to put it in, and I was only going to be stopped there a few minutes.

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Apparently you aren't familiar with at least trying to get a new rider to try to minimize injury?

If you didn't bother reading, I said if the shop is selling genuine H-D brand helmets they are made by HJC and KBC. Those are worn by professional racers of all types world wide if you don't also realize that. Second, if you can't get a new rider to wear a full face, wouldn't you at least try to get them to wear an open face or a half shell at the least?

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

I'm all about minimizing injury. Every HD shop I've been in also sell the crap helmets which a lot of people flock to for the savings and the cool factor. Those helmets are worthless. They aren't even a good conversation piece. I've seen better, sturdier whitewater helmets for kayakers.
Virginia has helmet laws. They have to wear something so that's a moot point.

As for your helmet, obviously the guy was full of the usual biker lifestyle bullshit. I hope you did get something out of the whole thing, but I have a feeling not. My condolences for your RF1000 and the bike. I'd be pissed too. That's why I seldom set my helmet anywhere that it might fall in a restaurant or on my bike - Murphy's Law and all y'know.
Yes he was full of it.
I did get something out of it. Long story short, after he insisted on me calling the cops because he thought I was trying to rip him off when I told him how much the helmet cost, he agreed to pay me if I made up a bill for damages and to send my helmet back to Shoei to get checked out. The helmet checked out OK! I tallied up a bill for around $260 for damages to the bike and helmet. He offered $100. I took HER to court and was awarded $360. It helped that the police report mentioned the smell of alcohol on her breath and slurred speech. He/her(IDK whatever) had their insurance company get involved and they sent me a check for $440!
It did take four months though...
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:25 AM   #93
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I wonder if laying it down is something they used to teach.
Somebody told me that the British police used to teach that back in the 20's - but by the 30's it was an obsolete technique as front brakes had improved to the point where staying upright and braking was a more effective approach to emergency stopping They continued to teach it for another forty years but it had morphed into more of a "how to crash safely (!)" skill.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:22 PM   #94
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The last two times I "laid it down" was due to a go kart cutting across in front of me (figure 8 kart races in a friends backyard) and trying to ride beyond my skill level. But, in both cases I was on the brakes and on the bike until the end. IMHO departing yourself from the bike is a big no-no, as you give up any control you have.
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Old 04-24-2011, 06:23 PM   #95
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A buddy of mine laid his GT500 Titan down...

He rode home totally drunk (not recommended), then figured the bike was tired from the long ride (8 miles), so he "had to lay 'er down" in the barn - covered it with a blanket too... Kids! What are ya gonna do?
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:03 PM   #96
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A buddy of mine laid his GT500 Titan down...

He rode home totally drunk (not recommended), then figured the bike was tired from the long ride (8 miles), so he "had to lay 'er down" in the barn - covered it with a blanket too... Kids! What are ya gonna do?
Hey, at least he had the sense and decency to use a blanket!

I don't know how many times I've woken up on a floor without any form of blanket or anything.
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:38 PM   #97
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:57 AM   #98
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Crashing, to avoid crashing. Makes sense to me!
This reminds me of the quote by Otto von Bismarck: 'Preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death.'
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:08 AM   #99
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Another thinly disguised Harley bashing thread.
Stereotypes are created when people live up to the stereotype.

I've had the "lay r' down" conversation with dozens of riders over my 45 years of riding. It always seemed to be long term Harley riders making that statement. Not my fault they are perpetuating the stereotype.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:19 AM   #100
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Most ignorant thing ever on FOX NEWS

Moments ago I was watching Fox news...They showed a video clip of a rider being hauled off on a strecher. It looked like he had been under a semi-trailer in the crash.

Jon Scott: "Well let’s hope that rider is OK…When you go to motorcycle school you are taught to sometimes lay the bike down to lesson the impact of a collision..."

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Send him an e-mail and tell him what you think. Address it to Jon Scott: happeningnow@foxnews.com
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:31 AM   #101
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Moments ago I was watching Fox news...They showed a video clip of a rider being hauled off on a strecher. It looked like he had been under a semi-trailer in the crash.

Jon Scott: "Well let’s hope that rider is OK…When you go to motorcycle school you are taught to sometimes lay the bike down to lesson the impact of a collision..."

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Send him an e-mail and tell him what you think. Address it to Jon Scott: happeningnow@foxnews.com
Typical Faux news story, full of misleading, incorrect .



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Old 04-26-2011, 10:53 AM   #102
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Jim - If you don't have any Armor All handy, an alternative is to use duct tape....


I would love to see him riding off in the distance to see how far he would get with that tape.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:48 AM   #103
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Moments ago I was watching Fox news...They showed a video clip of a rider being hauled off on a strecher. It looked like he had been under a semi-trailer in the crash.

Jon Scott: "Well let’s hope that rider is OK…When you go to motorcycle school you are taught to sometimes lay the bike down to lesson the impact of a collision..."

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Send him an e-mail and tell him what you think. Address it to Jon Scott: happeningnow@foxnews.com



I don't watch Fox News so I would have missed it, but... e-mail sent!
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:40 PM   #104
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I don't watch Fox News so I would have missed it, but... e-mail sent!
I don't either but I was watching Northwest Cable News (one channel away) and bumped my remote just in time for the story. Must have been fate.

Send Jon e-mails and tell him "layin' er down" is NOT Taught at "motorcycle school"

ATTN: Jon Scott

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Old 04-26-2011, 12:53 PM   #105
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Jon Scott: "Well let’s hope that rider is OK…When you go to motorcycle school you are taught to sometimes lay the bike down to lesson the impact of a collision..."
Email sent. Why am I not surprised that was on Faux News.
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