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Old 05-04-2011, 06:59 AM   #61
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I think you all have come up with a great work-around for the ABS issue.

I'd like to ask the question a different way...

The default setting for the F800GS with ABS is "ABS On"

Is there any way possible to change the default setting to "ABS Off" and use the ABS button to turn it on when you need it?
You would have to hack the BMS-K. Good luck with that. Hacking BMW's cars takes hundreds of hours, there likely isn't any financial worth in it.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:51 AM   #62
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Would be a relief not to worry about turning off ABS after each stop.



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It would be great to be able to deactivate ABS for the day, and not have to remember to hold down the ABS button each time you restart the bike.

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Old 05-09-2011, 07:24 AM   #63
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It would be great to be able to deactivate ABS for the day, and not have to remember to hold down the ABS button each time you restart the bike.

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There are those of us as well who ride a combination of dirt and pavement and cross back over both surfaces many times in a day, so turning it off then back on just as easily would my preference.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:53 AM   #64
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There are those of us as well who ride a combination of dirt and pavement and cross back over both surfaces many times in a day, so turning it off then back on just as easily would my preference.
Those people have two options:

1) Leave the bike as is

2) deploy the switch, but leave it off (ie: stock operation) on days where you'll be mixing it up more and flip the switch for days where you're doing mostly or all dirt.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:09 PM   #65
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The connectors are now available for purchase. I posted this in the Vendors section....
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...php?p=15880210
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:45 PM   #66
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I'll be ordering one of these real soon.

This is my first bike with ABS and it took all of one ride in the dirt to realize how easy the ABS can get you hurt if I forget to turn it off, it'll be nice to have this option on the fly.

Not to hijack this thread to bad or start an ABS war, but I'm finding the ABS really annoying ON road as well if I'm really pushing it. Especially if I'm trail braking into a corner with a few bumps, right when I need to have brake feel the most the pedal starts jacking like Satan is doing pull ups on it trying to throw me off my line. I've only ridden the bike with TKCs, is this contributing to the problem? If this is the best it can do it's far from a transparent system.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:30 PM   #67
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I'll be ordering one of these real soon.
Not to hijack this thread to bad or start an ABS war, but I'm finding the ABS really annoying ON road as well if I'm really pushing it.
I try and remember to turn off my ABS at all times unless I'm going to be on the highway. I'd rather have the option to slide and lay it down if I need to in and around town. Out on the highway at speed, I think the ABS can do what it was designed for.

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Old 05-16-2011, 01:12 PM   #68
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:31 PM   #69
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I'll be ordering one of these real soon.

This is my first bike with ABS and it took all of one ride in the dirt to realize how easy the ABS can get you hurt if I forget to turn it off, it'll be nice to have this option on the fly.

Not to hijack this thread to bad or start an ABS war, but I'm finding the ABS really annoying ON road as well if I'm really pushing it. Especially if I'm trail braking into a corner with a few bumps, right when I need to have brake feel the most the pedal starts jacking like Satan is doing pull ups on it trying to throw me off my line. I've only ridden the bike with TKCs, is this contributing to the problem? If this is the best it can do it's far from a transparent system.
It's not the TKC's. I have the stock tires, which are really street tires with a slightly deeper tread, and it can be bad. I live in Edmonton at the moment and the roads here are 3rd world. I don't even have to be riding that aggresively to set off the ABS on a rough patch.

I know it's cool to have ABS on a bike, and it probably even helps in some situations, but the jury is still out for me. All my previous bikes were non-ABS and they seemed to work just fine.

I have a few other bits to aquire first, but I will get to this switch for sure.
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:46 PM   #70
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I'd rather have the option to slide and lay it down if I need to in and around town.
Arg.

Sorry for the derailing, but this is a pet peeve of mine: "Had to lay 'er down" is never the right answer.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:59 AM   #71
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If this is the best it can do it's far from a transparent system.
Transparant? As in "I don't want to know when the ABS kicks in"?

That would scare me more I think.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:09 AM   #72
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Transparant? As in "I don't want to know when the ABS kicks in"?

That would scare me more I think.
No, as in I don't want the ABS to kick in while riding in situations that I don't need it. Turning the ABS off I can ride through the same road pushing just as hard without any ill effects, I don't want ABS to do ANYTHING in those circumstances.

The reason I used the word transparent is that before I got ABS I've always heard the argument that you'll never know you have ABS on the bike until you need it, so it's transparent until it saves you from a certain deadly lock up. So far I haven't found that to be the case as it kicks in long before I need it in some circumstances, and actually makes it harder to hold a constant brake pressure at the limit of traction.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:45 AM   #73
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Arg.

Sorry for the derailing, but this is a pet peeve of mine: "Had to lay 'er down" is never the right answer.
Sure it is. If you can't avoid, laying it down is likely you best course of action vs direct impact.

That said, most people give up too easily and make the decision to lay it down.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:29 AM   #74
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Sure it is. If you can't avoid, laying it down is likely you best course of action vs direct impact.

That said, most people give up too easily and make the decision to lay it down.
Laying it down is a viable option of last resort that isn't possible with ABS. I have resorted to it a couple of times in my last 35 years of riding and it has saved my ass.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:54 AM   #75
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Sure it is. If you can't avoid, laying it down is likely you best course of action vs direct impact.

That said, most people give up too easily and make the decision to lay it down.
I have 21 years of riding experience, most of which, including now, year round without even owning a car.

Zero broken bones, one sprained ankle, one sore knee.

I am interested in learning under what conditions rolling traction will not allow you to stop quicker or turn sharper then throwing the bike on it's side to slide with a very low coefficient of friction on expensive metal and plastic parts?

Ok, if your going to T-Bone a semi you could lay it down and slide under it, are there any other cases?

P.S. You can lay down an ABS bike quite easily, just turn the handle bars without shifting weight or counter-steering. The laws of physics are still in force, the bike will go down.

P.P.S. Oh yeah, had a cop once tell me that its useful to lay down a bike when your being shot at so you can slide on your back behind it and return fire from a covered position. I will have to take his word for it as I don't get shot at often enough to judge this.

Any other situations sliding on metal and plastic is better then rubber?
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