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Old 06-11-2011, 08:58 AM   #76
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for the past 3 years, I haven't had a commute except for a 75ft walk out to the barn where my office is, I used to commute about 17miles each way to my office, but 90% back roads half of which was gravel, and the mile and a half of state highway I was going in the opposite direction of 90% of the traffic

but, I do use my bike as a company vehicle to run errands, research,courrier and visit jobsites in rural northern new england, I stick to town roads as much as possible, most of the time I'm on the road mid day mid week, rarely see another vehicle, occasional delivery truck, or tradsman going to a job just like me, I know the roads well, know what to expect, where etc so rarely do I have a surprise, common to have a flock of wild turkeys wander into the road, I usually know where to expect it, same with deer, etc, I know which neighbors are prone to pulling out of their driveway without looking, I know where blind driveways are, corners that are prone to loose gravel and most importantly, I know the routes with the fewest driveways & lowest traffic

sounds boring doesn't it ?

typical ride except that its a Saturday morning when traffic is heaviest
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:14 AM   #77
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Just how will it hurt, "somebody else"?

I'm the one on a glorified 10speed with 26hp... (that also pays for tags and insurance)

Do you have the statistical data that proves yer point? Have you done all the traffic studies? Are you yerself a traffic engineer?

(PS, IT'S THE SAME THING THEY DO, only it's them on the receiving end)
Every time you do something like that, you up the stakes for the rest of that encounter or the offending driver's next one. Eventually, someone on a bike is going to get hurt. Simple!
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:00 AM   #78
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No it's not that simple... I'm the one on a motorcycle with nothing more to protect myself than leather pants...


The cars trucks whatever are already going slow in the left lane and I do NOTHING different than make them go a little slower...

OBLIVIOUS to the systematic, LHD North American driving position, more of a blind-spot on the right, that makes "slow traffic keep right" for a reason, it's not as simple as that.


But if that kind of "I say it, so it must be so" logic makes you feel better, I'm sure there's some video of a truck trying to kill a motorcyclist you can go heckle.

...B/c it's that simple!
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Old 06-12-2011, 07:47 PM   #79
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[QUOTE=King_Panther13;16139498]I used to have a lot of respect in cops. And I've told the following story a million times, but I'll tell it a million more.

It was some overweight middle aged man. As he noticed that I wasn't kidding around, he hopped in his Town and Country and drove off. I got his tag number and called the cops. They went to his house, came back and said "Oh, well he didn't know that you had a baby in your car. He also said that you were laughing at him, so he had a right to follow you. You should have pulled over sooner, he was just teaching you a lesson! You're lucky he didn't hurt you."


That's absurd statement by the police. Who was he to be teaching you anything? Personally I'd NEVER pull over for anyone who's been a problem or is looking to be one. One has no clue about what they're capable of much less liable to do. At the least find a well lit and populated place if there's no other choice and stop with an escape route in front of you and the engine running.
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Old 06-12-2011, 07:54 PM   #80
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I used to have a lot of respect in cops. And I've told the following story a million times, but I'll tell it a million more.

It was some overweight middle aged man. As he noticed that I wasn't kidding around, he hopped in his Town and Country and drove off. I got his tag number and called the cops. They went to his house, came back and said "Oh, well he didn't know that you had a baby in your car. He also said that you were laughing at him, so he had a right to follow you. You should have pulled over sooner, he was just teaching you a lesson! You're lucky he didn't hurt you."


That's absurd statement by the police. Who was he to be teaching you anything? Personally I'd NEVER pull over for anyone who's been a problem or is looking to be one. One has no clue about what they're capable of much less liable to do. At the least find a well lit and populated place if there's no other choice and stop with an escape route in front of you and the engine running.
I've bypassed my destinations, work, home, store, whatever, a time or two when it looked like someone was following or was looking to create trouble. No need to stop for such people, sure as hell no reason to make it easy for them to find out where I work/live.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:01 PM   #81
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That's absurd statement by the police. Who was he to be teaching you anything? Personally I'd NEVER pull over for anyone who's been a problem or is looking to be one. One has no clue about what they're capable of much less liable to do. At the least find a well lit and populated place if there's no other choice and stop with an escape route in front of you and the engine running.
This was when I was a bit more naive, and a bit less paranoid. Besides, I was only half a block from my apartment, and there were neighbors outside. I didn't even realize what he was doing until pulling into my parking space, I looked into my mirror and saw him do a u-turn, plow through the grass, and then run his minivan right up behind my car. Which I also believe is entrapment, so another point against the fuckwitted cop.

My friend who was also in the car suggested for me to not go home right away but I was all "Nahh, no reason for him to be mad at me. All I was doing was driving slowly, he's the one that ran the damn red."

The cop's excuse was that "Oh, well he doesn't live far from here, he didn't really 'follow you home' he just stopped as he was on the way to his home."

See, now I always try to lose people who so much as seem to be following me when I'm close to home, especially since I'm a fairly fast rider, though I don't ride aggressively when there are other cars involved. I usually ride "assertively" though, which is enough to set off some of the local rednecks trying to compensate for their undersized penises.

Even if I'm in a cage I activate "escape mode" and it is on. I think only once since then I've truly had someone try to follow me home, but I always will do some creative things to lose people ever since that incident, especially if I have a family member in the car/back of the bike.

I know that it's a "car story" but it applies to my opinion on cops, and I think that it's interesting enough for a thread like this. I also
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:22 PM   #82
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I've bypassed my destinations, work, home, store, whatever, a time or two when it looked like someone was following or was looking to create trouble. No need to stop for such people, sure as hell no reason to make it easy for them to find out where I work/live.
Yep... I've always been a little more aware of my surroundings than most other people seem to be... been followed a few times now.

Nothing's ever come of it, but yeah, on the bike it's pretty easy to do a U-turn on a side/neighborhood street. Usually do it where I can jump on the sidewalk and put a car between them and me when I pass them.

There's a dirt two-track between the fields that my office is in and the next street over, i've been known to go the other way when I pull into the parking lot at work and hop on that two-track, then swing around the neighborhood and come in the back way.

The safety training that I had to sit through at work a few years ago told us to be aware of surroundings, leave yourself an out... a lot of things you should do on a moto anyways... then things like doing a walk-around of your car before you unlock it, making sure locking doors are closed behind you to prevent tailgaters, and carrying some sort of self-defense spray.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:05 PM   #83
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...The safety training that I had to sit through at work a few years ago told us to be aware of surroundings, leave yourself an out... a lot of things you should do on a moto anyways... then things like doing a walk-around of your car before you unlock it, making sure locking doors are closed behind you to prevent tailgaters, and carrying some sort of self-defense spray.
Our squadron truck automatically unlocks all the doors every time you put it in park, and locks then when you put it in drive, drives me absolutely crazy. Of course when I get in my car, I do things like you say, and if it is dark use a flashlight to look around/inside the thing. Of course that's also because I don't drive it very much, and need to make sure no tires went flat.

Also in the commuting department, if I'm on night escort (which is rare), I will drive far out of my way to go to the good side of town for fast food, instead of stopping on my conspicuous bike in a bad neighborhood, especially at night. If I find myself in sketchy areas, I'll check for traffic/cops, and proceed through red lights depending on the circumstances.

Heck, we just had a MSgt (I think) get shot at by some jokers in a former police interceptor just off base, after flashing their headlights trying to pull him over. And just a couple weeks before, a black and white got shot up at a red light in the wee hours of the morning. As in half a mag of some sort of Kalashnakov rippoff. Hence my reluctance to stop anywhere for too long. Which is really too bad.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:23 AM   #84
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The day after Christmas, 1997. It was a balmy 60 degrees in VA and I decided to go show my Dad my latest toy: a brand new, bright red VFR750F with Two Brothers full exhaust.

I had been at my folks house for some time and the sun was starting to set. It was well before I knew about quality MC clothing, so I wanted to head for home before it got cold.

It was dusk when I hopped on the 55 mph rural 2-lane for the 40 miles to the house. I come up on a guy in a beat up F-150 with huge Harley wings in the back glass. He's rolling about 40 mph with no one in front of him. As I approach to do a legal pass in a passing zone, he really starts eyeballing his mirrors. I signal to overtake on the left and he starts coming over in my lane, so I back off and fall in behind him. I can see his head bobbing up in down in delight from effing with me.

I try again with the same response from the F-150 driver. At this point, the passing lane is gone. A short piece down the road, there is another passing zone and I downshift 2 gears and zoom past him. At this point he goes from his normal 40 mph to tailgating me @ 70. No problem. I twist the grip until I can no longer see his headlights. It is now dark. I'm at least 2 miles ahead of him, so I drop down to 60 mph.

I'm enjoying the ride home at this point and have been looking all around at my surroundings. I didn't notice the headlights on my ass until they were RIGHT ON ME! Again, I just gave the throttle a quick twist, and I was GONE! Stupid fecker.

The headlights were very tiny now. As I was studying the tiny lights in my mirrors, I noticed a tiny blue light on top of them. What? Really? Oh, COME ON!!!!

I was approaching a small town where the speed limit dropped to 35. There was a little pull off before the town, and that's where I pulled over. When the cop pulled up behind me I already had my helmet off and my papers on the seat.

He had his flashlight out and was studying the bike. "What size is this?" I told him a 750, but it's slow for a 750 because I had a ZX-6R at the house that could absolutely smoke it. He said "well, I think it's pretty fast because I clocked you at 120 in that last turn!" My response? Shoot, I was doing 145 on the straight!

The cop was asking why I ran. I told him I thought he was the asshole in the truck. At that very time, said asshole drove by and I pointed. See? The cop said "Yep. I have a Honda. I know all about it."

I asked him how he got on my ass so fast. He said he heard me way before he saw me, so he thought his radar was malfunctioning because he clocked me at 60 mph. He then proceeded to pace me for a mile. So then I asked, so you followed me for a whole mile with no headlights? How legal is that? Was I speeding when you got behind me? No. Did I pull over when I saw your blue lights? Yes. Okay, how exactly did I run, then?

Ultimately, the cop was cool, and let me go. So I basically got a warning for doing 120 on radar and 145 by my own admission.

The last thing the cop said?

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Old 06-14-2011, 06:35 AM   #85
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OK, your turn. Any road rage, folly, humorous stories about your daily commute? Share away.

Here's one... Not on the bike, but funny! My cage is a Mini S -- small, fast, fun... about as much so as you can get on four wheels.

Anyhoo, there's a two-lane service road which merges onto the highway. At one point, the service road merges down to one lane, and then opens back up to two. The classic New Yorker move is to delay merging until the last second, so you can race up the open lane. Naturally, that's what I do.

So, I commute on the bike just about every day. As a result, I have a pretty good sense about how much room I need to fit -- the bike OR the car. So, I see a spot sized just right for the Mini, and I merge in right before the road goes down to one lane. Well, the guy in the Jeep behind me musta not been expecting that, so he suddenly tries to gas it, and lays on the horn.

For the next half mile, he's riding my ass. As soon as the road opens back to two lanes, he pulls out to the right, and races right next to me. Then, he starts weaving into me. This idiot is so angry that I got 10 feet in front of him on the highway, that he's going to try to run me off the road.

He keeps trying to merge between me and the truck in front of me. I decide, I'm just going to drive like he's not even there -- straight and steady. If he hits me, that's what the police and insurance are for.

One problem with HIS plan: Remember when I said the service road merges with the highway? Well, the merge is rapidly coming up, and this idiot is in the WRONG LANE because he's been so intent on trying to merge into me. By the time he realizes that the road is about to split, there's not enough time for him to drop back and get into the left lane.

I was polite, though. I made sure to wave as he veered off to the local roads.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:01 AM   #86
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(PS, IT'S THE SAME THING THEY DO, only it's them on the receiving end)


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I really don't give a fuck if it amuses YOU! Deliberately altering your speed/lane position to annoy or "get back at" other road users is really, really, really STUPID and Will result in you or somebody else getting hurt one day.
Playing games like that is just plain DUMB!!! Do yourself a favor and don't do it any more.
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Hey wiseblood that kinda crap pisses ME off to no end also, so in your story I view you as the dick.

Just this weekend in boston some douch tried that at the toll booths except no one let him in so he just sat there blocking the speedpass lane like the idiot he was. If you know you have to merge why make it dangerous for the drivers that are already in the proper lane so you can save 10 feet.
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Hey wiseblood that kinda crap pisses ME off to no end also, so in your story I view you as the dick.
Which part? There are at least three parts where I was a dick.




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Just this weekend in boston some douch tried that at the toll booths except no one let him in so he just sat there blocking the speedpass lane like the idiot he was. If you know you have to merge why make it dangerous for the drivers that are already in the proper lane so you can save 10 feet.
Well, it was more like, saving 300 feet. There were two lanes. The left one, which was filled with traffic, and the right one which was empty for 300 feet, after which point it merged into the left.


Anyhoo, in just about all these stories (including MINE) there are TWO dicks involved. At any point, either one of us could have backed off. But, then there would be no story.
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...And it did fit the thread title I posted... The Strange. The Odd...


Thank you for sharing.
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Yeah it does fit the thread and i had nothing to contribute, sorry.

But it was fresh in my head and it annoys me, hahaha.

So to redeem myself here is my story- I was about 1/2 a mile from my exit after work and traffic was backed way up, i was on my x challenge. The guy ahead of me on a harley has the same idea i have and pulls out into the breakdown lane to pass and get off the exit. Well that pissed off jonny be good in the suv ahead and he pulled out after the harley and blocked me. He thought he was so bad ass blocking my way in his big truck. I just flipped him off and went down the embankment into the woods along the highway. There are trails there that i ride and knew i could connect with. I saw everyone in their cages mouth wide open like WTF is this retard doing. I actually ended up getting a little turned around and probly lost time in the woods but it was way more fun than sitting in the traffic.
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