Can a Harley make it to Magadan? - Page 53

WaywardSon · 06-13-2011, 05:16 AM

Doug...Thanks for the history lesson & great pics. I appreciate the effort on your part to take us along. Nice job!

gdcartjr · 06-13-2011, 05:27 AM

This is all cool as could be but I do have one question for you... Does anybody you run into know or recognize the confederate flag on your bike? Just curious if other parts of the world know this symbol of the south.

DanEngels · 06-13-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gdcartjr

This is all cool as could be but I do have one question for you... Does anybody you run into know or recognize the confederate flag on your bike? Just curious if other parts of the world know this symbol of the south.

I'm sure they do. Who can ever forget after watching Dukes of Hazzard and the General Lee!

docwells7 · 06-13-2011, 08:17 AM

Just wondering if you're getting lot's of comments on the bike? It's the best looking HD XLGS I've ever seen...

n2nrn · 06-13-2011, 01:22 PM

I have to admit that I don't know a lot about Turkish history or Ataturk, but after seeing that quote on the monument, he has gained my respect.
Now I want to know more .
If I were a relative of one of the soldiers buried there, I would feel some peace about where my loved one lies after reading that.

Again Doug, thanks for one more history and culture lesson.

Jeff

GSpot1200 · 06-13-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by n2nrn

I have to admit that I don't know a lot about Turkish history or Ataturk, but after seeing that quote on the monument, he has gained my respect.
Now I want to know more .
If I were a relative of one of the soldiers buried there, I would feel some peace about where my loved one lies after reading that.

Again Doug, thanks for one more history and culture lesson.

Jeff

Wow, Agreed, two times. Great Photos and Lessons!

GSpot1200 · 06-13-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rtwdoug

that black 'spooge' is from turkey. they spray the roads with it, then dump gravel on it & let the trucks do the work. Its very interesting when travelling the other way with an open faced helmet.

I asked em if the turks gave them an extra tax upon leaving for taking so much of the new road out of the country

Ha, Cowley County Kansas, USA does the exact same thing! At least they put the gravel over it right away.

mehigh · 06-13-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rtwdoug

war has come a long way since the mule corps

TRadventure · 06-13-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by n2nrn

I have to admit that I don't know a lot about Turkish history or Ataturk, but after seeing that quote on the monument, he has gained my respect.
Now I want to know more .
If I were a relative of one of the soldiers buried there, I would feel some peace about where my loved one lies after reading that.

Again Doug, thanks for one more history and culture lesson.

Jeff

This is a black chapter of English War history,. that's why they don't mention it on history books. I've been born in the Netherlands but from Turkish origin. They never told me on history lessons at school of this part of the WW1 history.

Eddieb · 06-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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After that, I stopped to see the ruins of Troy. I wasn’t too impressed with it actually. But, as it is Troy, I felt I should at least stop for a peek.
There was actually 4 or 5 cities here over the ages, the 1^st one was built over 2000 years ago, & others added too or on top of it since then.

Did they still have the wooden horse of Troy out the front? I thought that was pretty naff.

matman1972 · 06-13-2011, 07:28 PM

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Did they still have the wooden horse of Troy out the front? I thought that was pretty naff.

Is Helen still there? I heard she was pretty hot!

OK Doug, You got me interested in this piece of battle history. (Ataturk) Got some reading to do.

igormortis · 06-13-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TRadventure

This is a black chapter of English War history,. that's why they don't mention it on history books. I've been born in the Netherlands but from Turkish origin. They never told me on history lessons at school of this part of the WW1 history.

Maybe not in some parts of the world, but over here in New Zealand and no doubt Australia also, the legacy of this battle is an inescapable part of our national culture.

It can be said that this battle was a turning point to our formation as a nation independent of England. Indeed, the surviving ANZAC soldiers came away with the utmost respect for their Turkish counterparts, not so much for the English officers who had sent them to their deaths.

The anniversary of this battle is remembered as a national holiday in NZ and Australia. Thanks Doug for the reminder that this is a pilgrimage that I have to make too one day.

Blind Warrior · 06-13-2011, 08:46 PM

The Gallipoli campaign was in a large part the work of Winston Churchill. His reputation survived and was enhanced during the 2nd War against the Germans, so Gallipoli was nudged into a shady corner of history where it might be forgotten. But the ANZACS paid the blood price. British military history at this time is full of incompetents who held rank because of the class system. Meritocracy was sidelined to breeding, and the 'lower' classes paid the piper.

NJ-Brett · 06-14-2011, 05:32 AM

It was a very good idea, ruined by some of the people in charge of getting it done.
Really, the entire war was was a bodge job for the reasons below.

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The Gallipoli campaign was in a large part the work of Winston Churchill. His reputation survived and was enhanced during the 2nd War against the Germans, so Gallipoli was nudged into a shady corner of history where it might be forgotten. But the ANZACS paid the blood price. British military history at this time is full of incompetents who held rank because of the class system. Meritocracy was sidelined to breeding, and the 'lower' classes paid the piper.

GRinCR · 06-14-2011, 09:12 AM

This is fantastic. History lesson with the RR. Now I can tell my mom all this time on the internet is not wasted. Ride on!

I'll be waiting for more.

06-13-2011, 05:16 AM	#781
WaywardSon Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Paducah, Kentucky Oddometer: 1,138	Doug...Thanks for the history lesson & great pics. I appreciate the effort on your part to take us along. Nice job! __________________ '99 K1200 LT '96 R1100 RT- Gone '95 K1100 LT- Gone '83 Yamaha Venture- Gone '78 Suzuki GS 750- Gone

06-13-2011, 01:22 PM	#785
n2nrn n00b Joined: Mar 2007 Oddometer: 9	Respect for Ataturk I have to admit that I don't know a lot about Turkish history or Ataturk, but after seeing that quote on the monument, he has gained my respect. Now I want to know more . If I were a relative of one of the soldiers buried there, I would feel some peace about where my loved one lies after reading that. Again Doug, thanks for one more history and culture lesson. Jeff __________________ 1985 Honda Vt500c Shadow 1998 Yamaha XT 225 1972 Honda CB350 1973 Jawa CZ175 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. - Yogi Berra

06-13-2011, 08:46 PM	#793
Blind Warrior Lost in the Ozone Joined: Oct 2009 Location: San Clemente, CA Oddometer: 178	The Gallipoli campaign was in a large part the work of Winston Churchill. His reputation survived and was enhanced during the 2nd War against the Germans, so Gallipoli was nudged into a shady corner of history where it might be forgotten. But the ANZACS paid the blood price. British military history at this time is full of incompetents who held rank because of the class system. Meritocracy was sidelined to breeding, and the 'lower' classes paid the piper. __________________ 2009 R1200GS 2007 DRZ400 1996 XL1200

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GRinCR Oppressed Nomad Joined: Apr 2011 Location: Alajuela, Costa Rica via MN. Oddometer: 190	This is fantastic. History lesson with the RR. Now I can tell my mom all this time on the internet is not wasted. Ride on! I'll be waiting for more. __________________ Greg Smith '90 DR650RS Costa Rica: Trippin' w/GR (My first thread!), The Bike Teardown _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "My father taught me to work; he did not teach me to love it." -Abraham Lincoln

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06-13-2011, 05:27 AM	#782
gdcartjr Piss Ant Joined: Jul 2008 Location: South Central, Ky Oddometer: 50	This is all cool as could be but I do have one question for you... Does anybody you run into know or recognize the confederate flag on your bike? Just curious if other parts of the world know this symbol of the south.