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Old 06-30-2011, 06:37 PM   #136
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p.s. your alpina sounds slightly lean on the pilot or airscrew.. it's got a little bog when you wack it, then it's slow to return to idle..
Couldn't this also point to a possible air leak?
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:51 PM   #137
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could be. if airscrew has no effect, it could be an airleak. but i'm guessing that alpina has an amal on it, and they're solid mount which have less tendency to leak.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:06 PM   #138
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That was pre-tune up video ;)
The just got it excitement.


Tried to time and crank the matador, lost my spark again, got pissed and decided beach vacation this weekend will do me a world of good.
It gets spark when I file the points...so I may replace em.
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That was pre-tune up video ;)
The just got it excitement.


Tried to time and crank the matador, lost my spark again, got pissed and decided beach vacation this weekend will do me a world of good.
It gets spark when I file the points...so I may replace em.
Best thing You can do! I replace them regularly, depending mileage or operating time (I do it mostly after operating time because I use them for trials riding) so around every 50 hours I change them, after 50 hours I got so much consumption on the electrodes that they don't work as good anymore, filing the point helps only for a short time.
(BTW.: Had this issue also with my Italjet T350).
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:22 AM   #140
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That was pre-tune up video ;)

It gets spark when I file the points...so I may replace em.
definitely replace points. if you've not replaced condenser already, might as well do that too, since you're in there. also, reroute condenser up to near coil, and put it in the airstream. they last longer if they don't get hot. and a lot easier to replace when they're not under the flywheel - do it once and you probably won't need to ever replace it again..
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New points and condensor on the way. Stay tuned next week.
If this doesn't work, I hate motorcycles forever.
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Old 07-01-2011, 03:14 PM   #142
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If this doesn't work, I hate motorcycles forever.
the solution is to own more motorcycles. that way when you get stuck on one, you can move on to another one
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:58 PM   #143
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Guess I'll put this in here as well, seeing that it is cranked. The points were the issue ;)

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Old 07-07-2011, 02:49 PM   #144
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Guess I'll put this in here as well, seeing that it is cranked. The points were the issue ;)


May be I am blind or the pixels got lost over the pond?
I only can see black?
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:53 PM   #145
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May be I am blind or the pixels got lost over the pond?
I only can see black?
I think your pixels got lost :) even your quote of my post had the embedded video in it.
Try:
http://vimeo.com/26125716
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I think your pixels got lost :) even your quote of my post had the embedded video in it.
Try:
http://vimeo.com/26125716

Cool , you got the bike sorted, very very nice,
a real beauty and cool machine.

I think this will be interesting for you: a footage from the TV from Switzerland, this footage is from 1969, by the there is an interview with Jacky Ickx about trialsriding, thereafter follows a lot of interesting stuff.

http://archives.tsr.ch/player/motards-trial

The Alpina is also nice to see in action.

BTW:
My browser had a problem, I do not know which, but now it's working again.

P.S.:
I'am a little bit jealous that yours is already running, I do have some work left for my Bulto.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:47 AM   #147
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Woooo. It's officially running and in break in period, where it fouls plugs left and right -_-
I'm just glad it's to that phase!

So my timing isn't dead on because I couldn't get a proper indicator to tell me when the points open...I eyeballed it.
Is there anything ya'll use to know the precise moment they open? According to my manual, it wants me to pull the wire from the points (on the coil end, above the engine...black) and hook a meter/light to it. I have an ohm meter, put my red lead on the wire from the coil that goes to the points and grounded on the cylinder head but could not find the setting to let me know when the points circuit breaks...I tried them all.
Any thoughts or processes?
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:43 PM   #148
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get a proper dial indicator, and cut a spark plug apart to fit dial indicator in (make it tight so it won't move in plug holder...) (google it... see:
http://rd400.petercamburn.com/2008/0...ke-timing-kit/ ) - you won't need an indicator extension if it's a 1" indicator. it doesn't need to be a metric dial indicator - just google the conversion.

put your multimeter on continuity (with beep..) or you could just put it on ohms/resistance/whatever, but you gotta watch it, the beeping is easier.



you will hear the points separate by the beeping/no beeping.. look at your indicator and you will see how far you need to move the plate. make sure our points gap is dead on before you try to time it.

sorry for the crappy description, but i think you'll figure what i mean.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:48 AM   #149
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See, I've done EXACTLY what you described and just got a solid beep every time. I have a dial indicator as well so I find TDC, rotate reverse engine motion a half engine, then slowly turn the fly wheel in the natural direction and look for the points to open at a certain tolerance (I have it written down, something like .119-.136".)
The dial part is no biggie, got that, but my OHM meter (or me) is not doing it right. I pull the black wire (coming from the points) at the coil, hook up the meter and click to the setting you specified and just get a continuous beep.
I'll reproach it tonight or tomorrow with your directions to see if I really was on the right setting etc.
Thanks for the instructions there!
Btw, that spark plug holder for the dial is killer! I need to make one tonight
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:23 PM   #150
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set it at ohms then, and watch the meter - and analog meter is actually easier to use for this application. on beep mode it should stop beeping when it opens,i just play with it till it works..

if your plug holder is not tight enough (mine isn't) i wrapped a bit of scotch tape around the dial indicator housing and it made it a nice friction fit.
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