Harmonizer Vacuum Multi-Tool -- It ain't your Daddy's Twinmax - Page 5

Grok · 07-30-2011, 08:34 PM

Thanks fellas!
I think you will be happy with your purchase!

Droptarotter · 07-30-2011, 10:07 PM

Any idea on the price difference between the 2 and 4 cylinder version?
I need to decide which one to go for.

Thanks

Grok · 07-31-2011, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droptarotter

Any idea on the price difference between the 2 and 4 cylinder version?
I need to decide which one to go for.

Thanks

It's too early to nail it down. 4-cylinder version will likely be somewhere in the $175 ballpark. I'm trying to make it lower, but I can't commit to a price just yet!

BluByU · 07-31-2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grok

Thanks for the feedback!
I didn't know there was a used Twinmax market

There isn't anymore

Dallara · 07-31-2011, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grok

It's too early to nail it down. 4-cylinder version will likely be somewhere in the $175 ballpark. I'm trying to make it lower, but I can't commit to a price just yet!

And the six-cylinder version for folks with vintage Honda CBX's?

Dallara

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Grok · 07-31-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallara

And the six-cylinder version for folks with vintage Honda CBX's?

Dallara
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I actually thought about a six cylinder version for a couple of seconds. CBX, Valkyrie, and some older Porsches were the only few applications I could think of. Not much of a market there.

I also thought about a modular approach where ports could be added to a base unit. But it got complicated quickly and caused the costs to go up too much.

There was a fellow in Sweden that tuned a 12 cylinder Jaguar (4 Stromberg carbs) using the Harmonizer in a very inventive way. I think I might do a video tuning a Valkyrie with the Harmonizer at some point.

Dallara · 07-31-2011, 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grok

I actually thought about a six cylinder version for a couple of seconds. CBX, Valkyrie, and some older Porsches were the only few applications I could think of. Not much of a market there.

I also thought about a modular approach where ports could be added to a base unit. But it got complicated quickly and caused the costs to go up too much.

There was a fellow in Sweden that tuned a 12 cylinder Jaguar (4 Stromberg carbs) using the Harmonizer in a very inventive way. I think I might do a video tuning a Valkyrie with the Harmonizer at some point.

I think you know I was kidding, Grok...

But you know, it's funny you mentioning that 12-cylinder Jaguar. Back in the early '80s we used to actually synch the Weber sidedraft carbs on a 1973 Ferrari 365 GTC/4...

Using three sets of inline-four rack vacuum gauges hung on the back edge of the hood (it hinges forward). We calibrated all 12 individual gauges as best we could from a know vacuum source, making reference marks on each one, and then hooked 'em all up and went to work. Actually, it worked wonderfully, even if it did look rather like spaghetti with all those hoses hanging all over the place...

Thanks for bringing back the memory!

Dallara

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Railbender · 08-01-2011, 12:37 PM

I was using the Harmonizer on my Ural Patrol this afternoon, I had done it a week ago with my Twinmax but wanted to fine tune it. OK I wanted to play with my new toy. Everything was close, as expected. Adjusted idle and off idle with no problems. Went back to fine tune idle speed and suddenly the display went to -155 mbar and no RPMs.

Disconnected the hoses, they are clear and no leaks as they hold oral applied pressure. Reconnected and let it zero, all it does is read 000 mbar. Tried it on my R1100R, which I did with the Harmonizer on Saturday, with the same results, 000 mbar.

johnjen · 08-01-2011, 01:02 PM

That is called infant mortality, and refers to a component dying during the first 2-3 weeks of use (±).

It happens, thankfully, rarely.

JJ

Grok · 08-01-2011, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railbender

I was using the Harmonizer on my Ural Patrol this afternoon, I had done it a week ago with my Twinmax but wanted to fine tune it. OK I wanted to play with my new toy. Everything was close, as expected. Adjusted idle and off idle with no problems. Went back to fine tune idle speed and suddenly the display went to -155 mbar and no RPMs.

Disconnected the hoses, they are clear and no leaks as they hold oral applied pressure. Reconnected and let it zero, all it does is read 000 mbar. Tried it on my R1100R, which I did with the Harmonizer on Saturday, with the same results, 000 mbar.

I am sending you a PM confirm your address. I'll expedite one out to you immediately.
I'd appreciate you returning the defective unit to me so I can do a fault analysis!
Thanks!

Grok · 08-01-2011, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railbender

I was using the Harmonizer on my Ural Patrol this afternoon, I had done it a week ago with my Twinmax but wanted to fine tune it. OK I wanted to play with my new toy. Everything was close, as expected. Adjusted idle and off idle with no problems. Went back to fine tune idle speed and suddenly the display went to -155 mbar and no RPMs.

Disconnected the hoses, they are clear and no leaks as they hold oral applied pressure. Reconnected and let it zero, all it does is read 000 mbar. Tried it on my R1100R, which I did with the Harmonizer on Saturday, with the same results, 000 mbar.

I had one unit fail like this during the field testing phase.
I cracked open the sensor and found the manufacturer had missed a sealing step during assembly.
It was as if a goop dispenser (fancy technical term) had run empty during sensor assembly.
I have put a pulsed overpressure test in place to catch this type of defect, but obviously one got through.
D'oh!

We'll get you fixed up immediately.

howell_jd · 08-01-2011, 01:49 PM

I just made a purchase as well. Basically looking forward to better balancing!

Jonathan

ErricZ · 08-01-2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grok

I had one unit fail like this during the field testing phase.
I cracked open the sensor and found the manufacturer had missed a sealing step during assembly.
It was as if a goop dispenser (fancy technical term) had run empty during sensor assembly.
I have put a pulsed overpressure test in place to catch this type of defect, but obviously one got through.
D'oh!

We'll get you fixed up immediately.

Clearly, customer service will not be an issue! Good to know and cements my purchase for this month. :)

jackd · 08-01-2011, 02:32 PM

I just ordered one a few minutes ago. All the good reviews here, made it hard for me to resist.

Railbender · 08-01-2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grok

I am sending you a PM confirm your address. I'll expedite one out to you immediately.
I'd appreciate you returning the defective unit to me so I can do a fault analysis!
Thanks!

I will ship the defective unit tomorrow. Thanks for your excellent service.

07-30-2011, 08:34 PM	#61
Grok ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Folsom, California Oddometer: 3,562	Thanks fellas! I think you will be happy with your purchase! __________________ You can't go backward if you are facing the right direction

07-30-2011, 10:07 PM	#62
Droptarotter Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Cloverdale Oddometer: 831	Any idea on the price difference between the 2 and 4 cylinder version? I need to decide which one to go for. Thanks __________________ HP2 Sport, R1200S, R100S, KTM 640 Adventure, KTM 520 EXC/Motard, Yamaha RZ350, Hodaka 125 Wombat

08-01-2011, 12:37 PM	#68
Railbender Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2006 Location: NW PA Oddometer: 970	Problems I was using the Harmonizer on my Ural Patrol this afternoon, I had done it a week ago with my Twinmax but wanted to fine tune it. OK I wanted to play with my new toy. Everything was close, as expected. Adjusted idle and off idle with no problems. Went back to fine tune idle speed and suddenly the display went to -155 mbar and no RPMs. Disconnected the hoses, they are clear and no leaks as they hold oral applied pressure. Reconnected and let it zero, all it does is read 000 mbar. Tried it on my R1100R, which I did with the Harmonizer on Saturday, with the same results, 000 mbar. __________________ The shortest distance between two points is boring.

08-01-2011, 01:02 PM	#69
johnjen Mod-U-Later Joined: Nov 2001 Location: Seattle Oddometer: 13,502	That is called infant mortality, and refers to a component dying during the first 2-3 weeks of use (±). It happens, thankfully, rarely. JJ __________________ QUOTE from vermin I lie to myself because I am the only one who continues to believe me.

08-01-2011, 01:49 PM	#72
howell_jd Adventurer Joined: May 2011 Location: Baghdad, Iraq...how'd I get here again? Oddometer: 95	Count me in as well! I just made a purchase as well. Basically looking forward to better balancing! Jonathan __________________ Jonathan D. Howell Lieutenant Colonel, US Army 1972 KMZ "Dnepr" MB650, 2003 BMW F650CS, 2011 Yamaha Vino Classic

08-01-2011, 02:32 PM	#74
jackd Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: North Cowichan Oddometer: 2,369	One To Canada I just ordered one a few minutes ago. All the good reviews here, made it hard for me to resist.

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