The time has come... Neduro DID Dakar! - Page 16

wilkinsonk · 08-05-2011, 03:09 PM

Ned,

It's almost as if you're describing my bike, except mine's blue and Japanese instead of orange and Austrian. Mine also has a much more mundane future than yours, if you know what I mean. Although, mine may be on some dunes in Saudi Arabia about the same time yours is screaming across the Atacama Desert.

Thanks for letting us live vicariously through your experience.

Ken

gaspipe · 08-06-2011, 09:34 PM

Ned ---> give 'em hell brother.

Your quest is truly a salve for my soul right now.

PS: might be rolling through CO soon. I'll call ya.

neduro · 08-06-2011, 10:25 PM

A major debate that we had within the team is what lights to run. There is a lot of night riding in the Dakar, but hopefully not a lot of night racing. To explain: Most stages start near dawn, often many kms from the bivouac, so the commute from camp to start line is done in the dark. Typically, this is not done on the most difficult terrain... and if you're still out after dark on the race stage, things went wrong. But you clearly need good lights.

I told everyone who would listen I didn't want HID. My experience with them has been fussy- if you have exactly the right voltage, and the ballast woke up on the right side of the bed, you've got great light for not much power. I don't like fussy.

Enter Kurt Forget @ Black Dog Cycle Works. He recommended the Rigid LED lights as being reliable, indestructible, and very very bright.

That sounds like my brand... and while I haven't ridden at night with them yet, they pass the "holy shit are those bright" shop test, in side by side comparison with an HID racelight we had lying around.

I've got two- one 2x2 which should be livable for other drivers coming toward me, and one D2 which is pretty much blinding. I like blinding.

"A man's gotta know his limitations" - Dirty Harry Callahan

My limitations include anything to do with fiberglass and paint... so Ganshert and C.Vestal have been running this show. Chris drove 250 miles one night to get the fairing parts from Scot, while I was off breaking my foot. Yup, these guys rule.

Here are the first set of parts off the molds, mounted up:

With holes cut (that's a touchy moment!) and after some sanding:

And with the intrepid C.Vestal in our state of the art paintbooth:

Hermetically sealed to keep a statistically accurate sample of whatever is in the air embedded in the wet paint. It actually came out pretty nice due to his efforts:

Awesome stuff. In 2 weeks, a bunch of ne'er-do-wells with unrelated full time jobs have made something really fucking cool, and I think it will prove to be as good as anything out there for what I need.

Plus, because the entire fairing budget consisted of pizza and beer, instead of cubic dollars to some shady european, I can afford to have spares, to test it thoroughly on multiple bikes, and I think coolest of all, there won't be any surprises- I know where this stuff came from in the way a mother knows about her baby. Well, OK, maybe a surrogate mother, since I do have some limitations.

Pyndon · 08-06-2011, 11:17 PM

Ned (and Team),

Great progress guys, bikes coming together now and looks really good!

Those lights are awesome, I run 2 x 1.5" LED's on my Aprilia and they work great and best of all are pretty much indestructible. Mine have alloy housings and have been crash tested a lot with no ill effects!

Big question is.......when will we see the "Neduro to Dakar LLC" rally kit available, lets face it, everything else Ned has worked up has ended up had ended up on the market

Hi to Chris, Natalie, Scot and everyone else that is making this thing happen.

In the meantime guys, go easy on the pizza and beer........

Pyn

nagykovi · 08-06-2011, 11:59 PM

nice fairing!!!

Where is THAT SHOP?

wrk2surf · 08-07-2011, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagykovi

nice fairing!!!

Where is THAT SHOP?

high mtn top secret ranch near the great divide...

WONB2K · 08-07-2011, 09:08 AM

Ned, my experience has been:

Nate, at Dirt Tricks, manufactures the best sprockets available. You won't have problems with the counter shaft sprocket other than light rust after the coating wears off. I've replaced chains as a preventative measure but the same sprocket set has started (and won) the last three SCORE races and still doesn't show any noticeable wear.

LED lights haven't evolved to the point that I'd run them exclusively; great flood light and terrific from the standpoint of amperage draw and reliability but they don't throw light far enough for high speed racing. Be careful of those "very bright" lights too, they tend to flatten terrain making it harder to read the surface changes. Test, test, test!!!

Best of luck my friend. You may be a Dakar rookie but you, better than most, know what it takes to succeed. I'll live vicariously through you and follow every stage with anticipation....just wish I could go too.

Jim

Chilly · 08-07-2011, 04:06 PM

Ned, Project is looking good. Lets get something together for the Enduro360 site. Inquiring minds want to know!

ganshert · 08-07-2011, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyndon

Ned (and Team),

Great progress guys, bikes coming together now and looks really good!

Those lights are awesome, I run 2 x 1.5" LED's on my Aprilia and they work great and best of all are pretty much indestructible. Mine have alloy housings and have been crash tested a lot with no ill effects!

Big question is.......when will we see the "Neduro to Dakar LLC" rally kit available, lets face it, everything else Ned has worked up has ended up had ended up on the market

Hi to Chris, Natalie, Scot and everyone else that is making this thing happen.

In the meantime guys, go easy on the pizza and beer........

Pyn

Hey Pyndon!

Of course a nav tower and fairing kit is in the works

This effort will be a lot of fun but won't be the same without you.

EvilClown · 08-08-2011, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neduro

...Here are the first set of parts off the molds, mounted up:

...

Got any full frontal shots of this mounted up?

Flood · 08-08-2011, 03:48 AM

I was waiting for someone to try out a LED-only solution for a rally bike, it just makes so much sense. Looking forward to see how it works out.

Bluebull2007 · 08-08-2011, 06:47 AM

Great build...you have some seriously talented friends.

neduro · 08-08-2011, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluebull2007

Great build...you have some seriously talented friends.

I'd rather be lucky than good, any day.

Hayduke · 08-08-2011, 08:04 AM

Nice job on the fairing Chris and Scot. I saw it first hand a few days ago, and it is beautifully simple; exactly what is called for.

hilslamer · 08-08-2011, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayduke

Nice job on the fairing Chris and Scot. I saw it first hand a few days ago, and it is beautifully simple; exactly what is called for.

+1, the epitome of simplicity with function.

08-05-2011, 03:09 PM	#226
wilkinsonk Riff Raff Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Alexandria, Virginia Oddometer: 401	Ned, It's almost as if you're describing my bike, except mine's blue and Japanese instead of orange and Austrian. Mine also has a much more mundane future than yours, if you know what I mean. Although, mine may be on some dunes in Saudi Arabia about the same time yours is screaming across the Atacama Desert. Thanks for letting us live vicariously through your experience. Ken wilkinsonk screwed with this post 08-05-2011 at 03:10 PM Reason: I cannot spell worth a damn!

08-06-2011, 09:34 PM	#227
gaspipe Just a dude.... Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Pickwick Lake, Tennessippi Oddometer: 11,205	Ned ---> give 'em hell brother. Your quest is truly a salve for my soul right now. PS: might be rolling through CO soon. I'll call ya. __________________ gaspipe [the original] I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill

08-06-2011, 10:25 PM	#228
neduro ^OP Tuareg 2013 Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Oddometer: 11,344	A major debate that we had within the team is what lights to run. There is a lot of night riding in the Dakar, but hopefully not a lot of night racing. To explain: Most stages start near dawn, often many kms from the bivouac, so the commute from camp to start line is done in the dark. Typically, this is not done on the most difficult terrain... and if you're still out after dark on the race stage, things went wrong. But you clearly need good lights. I told everyone who would listen I didn't want HID. My experience with them has been fussy- if you have exactly the right voltage, and the ballast woke up on the right side of the bed, you've got great light for not much power. I don't like fussy. Enter Kurt Forget @ Black Dog Cycle Works. He recommended the Rigid LED lights as being reliable, indestructible, and very very bright. That sounds like my brand... and while I haven't ridden at night with them yet, they pass the "holy shit are those bright" shop test, in side by side comparison with an HID racelight we had lying around. I've got two- one 2x2 which should be livable for other drivers coming toward me, and one D2 which is pretty much blinding. I like blinding. "A man's gotta know his limitations" - Dirty Harry Callahan My limitations include anything to do with fiberglass and paint... so Ganshert and C.Vestal have been running this show. Chris drove 250 miles one night to get the fairing parts from Scot, while I was off breaking my foot. Yup, these guys rule. Here are the first set of parts off the molds, mounted up: With holes cut (that's a touchy moment!) and after some sanding: And with the intrepid C.Vestal in our state of the art paintbooth: Hermetically sealed to keep a statistically accurate sample of whatever is in the air embedded in the wet paint. It actually came out pretty nice due to his efforts: Awesome stuff. In 2 weeks, a bunch of ne'er-do-wells with unrelated full time jobs have made something really fucking cool, and I think it will prove to be as good as anything out there for what I need. Plus, because the entire fairing budget consisted of pizza and beer, instead of cubic dollars to some shady european, I can afford to have spares, to test it thoroughly on multiple bikes, and I think coolest of all, there won't be any surprises- I know where this stuff came from in the way a mother knows about her baby. Well, OK, maybe a surrogate mother, since I do have some limitations. __________________ For Sale: FJ60, or Defender 90, Doubletake Mirrors- Folding D/S mirror that is both useful and indestructible. Dual Sport Riding Techniques DVDs: Clear instructional DVDs to improve off-road skills.

08-06-2011, 11:17 PM	#229
Pyndon Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Somewhere on two wheels!! Oddometer: 2,233	Ned (and Team), Great progress guys, bikes coming together now and looks really good! Those lights are awesome, I run 2 x 1.5" LED's on my Aprilia and they work great and best of all are pretty much indestructible. Mine have alloy housings and have been crash tested a lot with no ill effects! Big question is.......when will we see the "Neduro to Dakar LLC" rally kit available, lets face it, everything else Ned has worked up has ended up had ended up on the market Hi to Chris, Natalie, Scot and everyone else that is making this thing happen. In the meantime guys, go easy on the pizza and beer........ Pyn __________________ Pyn 2013 Dakar swag available here, your support is hugely appreciated: http://www.lyndonposkittracing.com/support-lyndon/support-packages/ Please visit my web-site / blog www.lyndonposkittracing.com You can also look me up on Facebook or Twitter.

08-06-2011, 11:59 PM	#230
nagykovi Adventurer Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Nagykovácsi, Hungary Oddometer: 78	nice fairing!!! Where is THAT SHOP? __________________ N A GY K O V Á CS I Yamaha YZ 250 1994 KTM 525 EXC Rally 2004 KTM SXF 250 2009

08-07-2011, 09:08 AM	#232
WONB2K The Road Less Traveled Joined: Jan 2006 Location: So Ca Oddometer: 288	Ned, my experience has been: Nate, at Dirt Tricks, manufactures the best sprockets available. You won't have problems with the counter shaft sprocket other than light rust after the coating wears off. I've replaced chains as a preventative measure but the same sprocket set has started (and won) the last three SCORE races and still doesn't show any noticeable wear. LED lights haven't evolved to the point that I'd run them exclusively; great flood light and terrific from the standpoint of amperage draw and reliability but they don't throw light far enough for high speed racing. Be careful of those "very bright" lights too, they tend to flatten terrain making it harder to read the surface changes. Test, test, test!!! Best of luck my friend. You may be a Dakar rookie but you, better than most, know what it takes to succeed. I'll live vicariously through you and follow every stage with anticipation....just wish I could go too. Jim

08-07-2011, 04:06 PM	#233
Chilly Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2010 Oddometer: 132	Ned, Project is looking good. Lets get something together for the Enduro360 site. Inquiring minds want to know! __________________ Enduro360.com Ride-Race-Adventure

08-08-2011, 03:48 AM	#236
Flood F5lood. Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Austria Oddometer: 9,343	I was waiting for someone to try out a LED-only solution for a rally bike, it just makes so much sense. Looking forward to see how it works out. __________________ TEAM F5 RallyRAIDio on Twitter RallyRAIDio on Facebook

08-08-2011, 06:47 AM	#237
Bluebull2007 Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Lima, Perú Oddometer: 3,328	Great build...you have some seriously talented friends. __________________ Racing Rallye Raid Dos Sertoes 2010 Ride report: LIVING THE DREAM - Racing 4,500km across Brazil. a n00b goes Rally racing- How to get into Rally RIFF RAFF 2011 - GO JONAH!

08-08-2011, 08:04 AM	#239
Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Salida, coloRADo Oddometer: 41,629	Nice job on the fairing Chris and Scot. I saw it first hand a few days ago, and it is beautifully simple; exactly what is called for. __________________ Official Adventure Rider T-Shirts! . Dual Sport Riding Techniques videos! Rally Moto Kit ///

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