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Old 10-06-2011, 07:42 AM   #8821
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The Jesse bags for the Tiger 800 are beautiful. They fit the bike better than any I've seen. Love the way they tuck in nice and close ... all bags should fit this way.

But several things would give me pause regards Jesse's bags:
1. Weight. How do they compare with HT? And don't forget to weigh the mounting racks and all hardware.

you bring up a very good point about weight. i just got an email from Rick at xploremoto, he said the Jesse's weight 35-38 lbs with mounts.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:10 AM   #8822
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Has anyone had gear taken from their bikes? I always wondered about it, but usually I keep everything on my bike and nothing has happened to it. Sometimes even the keys are left there.




On the Tiger it may be different because of the infamous passenger pegs welded to the frame (and not the sub-frame), but in general, hard bags on a crash are likely to create more damage to a bike. They are metal, if they don't deform they will transfer the impact directly to important bits of a bike. Like frames and sub-frames. Soft bags will provide more protection, in those cases. But again, in the case of the Tiger, it is likely to be a mute point because of the pegs that are bolted to the frame. If the pegs touch ground first on a hard crash, hard or soft bags won't matter. And anyway, this bike has no plastic on the rear.


I like a combination between soft and hard luggage. Here (on this video) is my set up. And in no time (the duration of the video) I have the bike unloaded, if unloading was required.





This is a very light, efficient and streamlined set up. And I still can lock up stuff in the small pelican box (storm IM2200) if I need. The bike can be ridden off pavement without worrying about anything. The one negative: you can't carry a passenger, only reason I would ever go for a hard set up (and in that case would probably choose pelican or something as tucked in as possible, like Jesses).

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Yep those great loop bags are cool but i needs bags for my wifes stuff. Since you can't have a passenger with them it brings me back to hard bags.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:24 AM   #8823
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Three weeks ago I ordered bar risers from Twisted Throttle. Still haven't shipped. Late last night I ordered a map handlebar holder from Procycle.us and it shipped already. Procycle is always right on it with customer service and shipping.

I have no affiliation, only a satisfied customer.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:06 PM   #8824
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Three weeks ago I ordered bar risers from Twisted Throttle. Still haven't shipped. Late last night I ordered a map handlebar holder from Procycle.us and it shipped already. Procycle is always right on it with customer service and shipping.

I have no affiliation, only a satisfied customer.
In my experiences with TT, they don't stock everything they sell, but rather get it from the source (such as SW Motech) once the order has been placed. I agree it can be frustrating to wait for weeks or months for an item.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:34 PM   #8825
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you bring up a very good point about weight. i just got an email from Rick at xploremoto, he said the Jesse's weight 35-38 lbs with mounts.
That weight is about equal to ALL my clothing, extra riding gear, tools,
and misc. stuff. My soft bags weigh about 3 lbs. Stand off racks are 3 lbs. ea.

Hard bags are great for road trips ... especially two up. Security is mostly a non-issue for touring riders. Unless you leave your bike in downtown cities most times not an issue.

I've been all though out Latin America on bikes. Never a theft with soft bags ... but I use inner bags and bring them in at night. Takes 10 seconds. Bags stay put.

If going off road then weight matters. Adding 38 lbs. for bags is a lot. You will feel it.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:40 PM   #8826
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In my experiences with TT, they don't stock everything they sell, but rather get it from the source (such as SW Motech) once the order has been placed. I agree it can be frustrating to wait for weeks or months for an item.
Anyone ordered anything from ALTRIDER for the Tiger yet? http://www.altrider.com/product/cate...or+Tiger+800XC
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:48 PM   #8827
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On the Tiger it may be different because of the infamous passenger pegs welded to the frame (and not the sub-frame), but in general, hard bags on a crash are likely to create more damage to a bike. They are metal, if they don't deform they will transfer the impact directly to important bits of a bike. Like frames and sub-frames. Soft bags will provide more protection, in those cases. But again, in the case of the Tiger, it is likely to be a mute point because of the pegs that are bolted to the frame. If the pegs touch ground first on a hard crash, hard or soft bags won't matter. And anyway, this bike has no plastic on the rear. Lion
You're skipping an important point about the "myth" of crash protection from Hard Bags: Rider safety.

Yes, it's true, sometimes a rider's leg can be protected by the hard bags in a fall. But many times the bags do more damage than good.
Case One:
Take paddling along in sand off road or deep gravel. Anyone ever done it? Suddenly your leg goes a bit too far back and the fucking hard bag whams your lower leg or ankle. Some have broken bones this way. I've done it and man ... it hurts.

The other scenario is that in a fall your leg ends up UNDER the bag rather than being protected by the bag. Lots of reports documenting exactly this.
Soft bags rarely hurt you in a fall and do a decent job of protecting the bike as well. Most get scraped up but most times hold together ... especially off road where little damage is done to soft bags in a fall. Can't say the same about Hard bags where one minor OFF can ruin your $2000
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:10 PM   #8828
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You're skipping an important point about the "myth" of crash protection from Hard Bags: Rider safety.

Yes, it's true, sometimes a rider's leg can be protected by the hard bags in a fall. But many times the bags do more damage than good.
Case One:
Take paddling along in sand off road or deep gravel. Anyone ever done it? Suddenly your leg goes a bit too far back and the fucking hard bag whams your lower leg or ankle. Some have broken bones this way. I've done it and man ... it hurts.

The other scenario is that in a fall your leg ends up UNDER the bag rather than being protected by the bag. Lots of reports documenting exactly this.
Soft bags rarely hurt you in a fall and do a decent job of protecting the bike as well. Most get scraped up but most times hold together ... especially off road where little damage is done to soft bags in a fall. Can't say the same about Hard bags where one minor OFF can ruin your $2000
bags.
Remember in Long Way Around where Ewen was back ended in Canada and his hard bags saved his life?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:28 PM   #8829
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If I were a hard bag guy they would be my 1st choice. I prefer soft bags for a number of reasons ... but mainly weight. If you need someplace to display your stickers ... hard bags are the way.

My thoughts excactly.
I thought I needed a bike with hard bags once and when I got that bike with hard bags I absolutely hated it
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #8830
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Quick update on the new tune. I had 020630 installed just before I left on a long tour around eastern Europe and the tune has been fine. Although my bike didn't have the stalling issues, this tune works just fine. So anyone wondering if they should bother, I say just do it then your bike will be up to date and recorded in Triumph's records as such.
As an addition, I don't know if this is due to me taking it relatively easy on tour, but the fuel consumption seems to have improved. From getting low 50sUKmpg at home, I'm getting somewhere around 60 now. The instant reading is showing around 65UKmpg whilst singing along with 65~70mph on the clock on a level road.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:50 PM   #8831
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In my experiences with TT, they don't stock everything they sell, but rather get it from the source (such as SW Motech) once the order has been placed. I agree it can be frustrating to wait for weeks or months for an item.
And, get zero communication one way or the other. The least they could do is notify you that a part is on back order. In the last couple months, I've ordered 4 things from them. Two were on back order, and it took me contacting them to find out. Annoying.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:25 PM   #8832
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And, get zero communication one way or the other. The least they could do is notify you that a part is on back order. In the last couple months, I've ordered 4 things from them. Two were on back order, and it took me contacting them to find out. Annoying.
I agree, frustrating. When you order they don't mention how long it will take.
Procycle.us sells everything imaginable for dual sports such as the DR650, KLR650, Hondas and so forth. Nothing specific for the Tiger, but they stock many tires and other things Tiger riders may need.

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http://www.procycle.us/
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:36 PM   #8833
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One more question. I ordered the 20mm bar risers from Twisted Throttle as they are specific to the Tiger. Has anybody tried a higher riser??? Procycle sells a 2 inch riser which I use on the DR200 and DR650. Easy to install on those bikes and no wire adjustments necessary.

  • 4.75" wide, requires 7/8" bar clamps on bike
  • Raises handlebars 2 inches and allows fore/aft position adjustment
  • Provides dual pivot points for optimum bar positioning
  • One piece design is made from solid aluminum for superior strength
  • Available for 7/8" or 1 1/8" bars
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:56 PM   #8834
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One more question. I ordered the 20mm bar risers from Twisted Throttle as they are specific to the Tiger. Has anybody tried a higher riser??? Procycle sells a 2 inch riser which I use on the DR200 and DR650. Easy to install on those bikes and no wire adjustments necessary.

  • 4.75" wide, requires 7/8" bar clamps on bike
  • Raises handlebars 2 inches and allows fore/aft position adjustment
  • Provides dual pivot points for optimum bar positioning
  • One piece design is made from solid aluminum for superior strength
  • Available for 7/8" or 1 1/8" bars
I'm going to go with the ROX Risers on payday.
http://www.altrider.com/rox-pivoting...bar/pcid/611-1



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Old 10-06-2011, 04:10 PM   #8835
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Interesting question. The instructions for the fog light kit state that your dealer should be able to look it up in the parts catalog. Still I'm sure it's some standard type; I would tend to doubt that Triumph had some new type of halogen bulb developed specifically for this application. Let us know what you find out.
So, my dealer called Triumph America to find out how to get a replacement bulb. TA said "We don't supply our dealers with replacement fog light bulbs, but the customer can purchase a replacement light." Very nice, Triumph, very nice. A fellow forum member provided me the part number and a tip on Don's Bulbs, which does carry the very bulb I need at a very cheap price, but requires a minimum order of $40. Now, I don't need 15-20 replacement bulbs, but Don's website does an excellent job of cross-referencing this bulb to various automobiles that use the same type. For those, like me, who are too lazy to search for this type of stuff themselves, the newest autos (US-spec) that use this fog light bulb are: 1998-2000 VW Beetle; 2000 Nissan Maxima; 2000 MB 320 or 430; All Jeep Cherokees or Wranglers; 1999 Chrysler Sebring Coupe; 1998 Ford Ranger; and 1997 Toyota Previa.
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