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Old 10-13-2011, 09:34 PM   #55546
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if it runs good with the choke on the your forcing a strong vacuum into the float bowl through the main jet , check that you have good flow coming out of tank and that the floats are letting enough gas in the bowl
i did notice earlier taking the tank off, that the new procycle fuel filter had fuel in it. yet when i removed the fuel line after the filter, the fuel did not come out with gravity. also seems like i have an aftermarket petcock with an off position which leaves me to beleive its not vacuum operated. could this be the culprit?
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:37 PM   #55547
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i did notice earlier taking the tank off, that the new procycle fuel filter had fuel in it. yet when i removed the fuel line after the filter, the fuel did not come out with gravity. also seems like i have an aftermarket petcock with an off position which leaves me to beleive its not vacuum operated. could this be the culprit?
no its not a vacuum system its a gravity type thing remove the gas line from the carb then turn gas on and it should really come out of there the dia of the hose
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #55548
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I know I'm in the minority but I'm not impressed with the GSXR can on the DR650.

I do have a Hindle mid-pipe on my FMF Powerline adaptation. I had to make significant mods the the Hindle mid-pipe to keep it a safe distance from the brake hose.

Hindle does have a problem with this product but I'm not suprised that it's only just now making showing up on their radar. I doubt Hindle has actually sold very many of these. They make and sell a lot of pipes for many other bikes but they haven't been more than a minor player in the DR650 market.

In any case. They should be given every opportunity to understand the problem. The first step for them has to be to verify whether it is a production error or a design problem. just telling them it's wrong doesn't get them any closer to identifying the root of the problem. A mid pipe seems like a simple part but there are uncountable things that could go wrong between the initial design work and the final installation by the rider.
jeff,
what don't you like about the GSXR muffler? the numbers show it makes better power (than stock) in meat of the powerband and it's well built, light and does not need packing.

the red line is the GSXR. it does better at lower rpms (meaty torque increase from 3000 rpm up) and the only place the FMF is better is above 7000rpm. who spends any serious amount of time up there? the DR is not a squid bike. from my experience the FMF needs repacking too often, is too loud and falls apart over time. which can do you like? Staintune makes a great one for the DR but is $$$. to me, everything about the GSXR pipe says it's perfect for the DR.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #55549
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I know I'm in the minority but I'm not impressed with the GSXR can on the DR650. I do have a Hindle mid-pipe on my FMF Powerline adaptation.
My mistake ... I thought you sold Hindle products ... since you sell every other thing in the world made for the DR650!

What problems have you found with the GSXR muffler? Aesthetics?
Technical?

How would you compare the quality of an FMF pipe (which I think you still sell?) to the GSXR Titanium item?
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:04 PM   #55550
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My mistake ... I thought you sold Hindle products ... since you sell every other thing in the world made for the DR650!

What problems have you found with the GSXR muffler? Aesthetics?
Technical?

How would you compare the quality of an FMF pipe (which I think you still sell?) to the GSXR Titanium item?
i've had both in my hand side by side and the GSXR was a way better build pipe to me. weight was similar, FMF slightly less but not a huge amount.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:41 PM   #55551
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If it makes you feel any better the XR-L would be getting close to needing the top end freshened up at 26K miles.
Yeah, you're probably right, but it would be cheaper than what I'm looking at right now.

Here's what caused the cylinder damage. Same size. Same place:
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:05 PM   #55552
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Lets not blow this out of proportion

I just read through the emails from Hindle back in 2009, and they clearly show that Hindle offered to look at the problem if I was to return the pipe to them for a warranty inspection. I say I want a refund before I send my pipe back, its explained that a refund is not easy due to the pipe being sold through a distributor and then through a retailer.

I accept that but Im annoyed because for me to go back to the stock pipe I would have to re-jet again, posting stuff back to Hindle will inevitably take a long time and who knows how long it will take once its recieved, I waited months for a silencer that never showed up. But primarily this is about safety and if someone contacts you and puts brakes, leaks, burns and crush in the same sentence I would expect you to be going 'oh my god, this is serious, we better have a look, thanks for bringing that to our attention, lets see what we can do here', I'm obvisouly being naive.

Between everyone here we could probably come up with the perfect pipe, clearance, power, weight, tone, style, price and made from recycled mid pipes, Hindle can make it, we'll buy it, everyones happy
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:11 PM   #55553
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Thanks for stepping in.

The midpipe should fit any post '96 DR650, which muffler we stick on the end won't change the position of the midpipe. Heck, take the muffler off and ride; the Hindle midpipe will still hit the brake clip and brake line. I have a new Hindle on the bench; when I saw the damage done to it (pics posted here), I decided to use the Jesse midpipe. I initially bought the Hindle for two reasons: Two Brothers is known for LOUD exhaust, I didn't want to support that mindset with my money. The second: I like the way the Hindle tapers from the exhaust header to the muffler. Someone said earlier that there was close to 1/2" of 'ding' on the Hindle at the bend.




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Old 10-13-2011, 11:45 PM   #55554
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GSXR Ti Muffler

Has anyone out there tired using the 01 GSXR Ti muffler with the mid pipe that comes with it? I bought a 01 Ti muffler off eBay a few months ago. It came with the orginal mid pipe. I thought the mid pipe would be a good place to start fabing up my own but since I am living 2003.5 air miles from my garage ( Garmin MapQuest ) and I am waiting on my friend John to find me the right replacement DR650 to replace the one I stupidly sold, I just read, study and plan my next DR build in my non riding ( rainy season ) time here. The DL650 I have here is a great bike but it's just not a DR.


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Old 10-14-2011, 01:27 AM   #55555
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yeah, that looks way lower than it needs to be. i got mine done for $180 at a motorbike exhaust shop including fitting, very nicely tucked away and couldnt be happier....

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Old 10-14-2011, 09:15 AM   #55556
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:16 AM   #55557
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no its not a vacuum system its a gravity type thing remove the gas line from the carb then turn gas on and it should really come out of there the dia of the hose
Get rid of the tiny filter in the carb inlet barb.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:25 AM   #55558
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Yeah, you're probably right, but it would be cheaper than what I'm looking at right now.

Here's what caused the cylinder damage. Same size. Same place:
Back in the '70's when money was scarce, we used to be able to save cylinders without boring them oversize if a seizure was simply aluminum transferred to the cylinder without scoring the cylinder itself. Aluminum can be removed from the cylinder with muriatic acid. Get it at a mason supply store. Brush it on the affected area and watch it bubble away the aluminum while leaving the ferrous mat'l alone. Depending on the amount and thickness of the aluminum several applications will be necessary. Be sure to give the cylinder a good rinse with water when finished, and report the results here please.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:33 AM   #55559
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How well does Krylon hold up over long haul?
Did you use the "Fusion" type?
Did you prime the surface, and what primer did you use?

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Old 10-14-2011, 09:48 AM   #55560
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jeff,
what don't you like about the GSXR muffler? the numbers show it makes better power (than stock) in meat of the powerband and it's well built, light and does not need packing.

the red line is the GSXR. it does better at lower rpms (meaty torque increase from 3000 rpm up) and the only place the FMF is better is above 7000rpm. who spends any serious amount of time up there? the DR is not a squid bike. from my experience the FMF needs repacking too often, is too loud and falls apart over time. which can do you like? Staintune makes a great one for the DR but is $$$. to me, everything about the GSXR pipe says it's perfect for the DR.
My own dyno testing shows the GSXR can as comming in about half way between the stock muffler and the FMF Q4. A PowerBomb header with a Q4 (or PowerCore 4) does better over the whole range.

I agree about the repacking issue. I've been hounding FMF for years to adapt something like their PowerLine ATV muffler for the dualsport market.
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