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Old 11-12-2011, 07:16 PM   #31
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japanese?
the euros do right now.
Sorry I forgot to include 'low maintenance', like the DRZ400 or WR250R but with the above things.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:17 PM   #32
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Was just doing some reading and there is speculation that this will come in around $4000.. If so thats 1000 less than the current carb 230L and I will definitely be interested in taking a look.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:27 PM   #33
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the CBR250 is $4000 there's no reason this would be more. And there's also something that has been missed. a 250 is a big bike in a lot of places. you have to have different license to ride anything bigger. We are lucky here in teh U.S. on that regard. I for one would like to see this bike in person.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:04 PM   #34
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Was just doing some reading and there is speculation that this will come in around $4000.. If so thats 1000 less than the current carb 230L and I will definitely be interested in taking a look.
that would turn some heads.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:13 PM   #35
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the CBR250 is $4000 there's no reason this would be more. And there's also something that has been missed. a 250 is a big bike in a lot of places. you have to have different license to ride anything bigger. We are lucky here in teh U.S. on that regard. I for one would like to see this bike in person.
it's still regionalized w/ availability. very little in the honda usa lineup is seen in mexico (next country over) and vice-versa.

farther south these are FI 300 that are made and sold in brazil
http://guia.mercadolibre.com.ar/hond...nado-54664-VGP

honda is very country specific in what they sell so this bike might be limited markets only.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:47 PM   #36
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How about this then -

http://www.honda.com.br/motos/Paginas/XRE%20300.aspx

QUOTE=rufus;17288697]Another ho-hum bike designed by someone who doesn't ride.



A perimeter frame is a dumb idea on an ADV/DS bike. It makes the bike harder to work on and wider with a bigger tank.

That thin seat will be miserable after a few hours.

It will be harder than necessary to put a fender bag on that goofy looking front fender.

The headlight is too low for night time riding. Your spare tube/ fender bag will be in the way.

From the looks of the rear end, it will be a challenge to get a rack and luggage on it.

Just another bike designed by marketing surveys........probably be a nice bike for what it is though.

You would think that at least ONE of the mfgrs would have someone who riders ADV/DS and could offer some input.[/QUOTE]
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:16 PM   #37
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I am gonna move to Australia one of these days and hope its not gonna be too long from now. I have been wanting to ride there for a while now and they have every bike imaginable plated.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:43 PM   #38
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I am gonna move to Australia one of these days and hope its not gonna be too long from now. I have been wanting to ride there for a while now and they have every bike imaginable plated.
Australia has my 2 fav offroad bikes street legal. the CRE500 and the IT490.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:14 PM   #39
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Really all Honda needs to have is a long travel 230 air cooled. ...For Simplicity. And light weight.

So... you're saying Honda needs to think older-tech?

What's so bad about a better, stronger, faster motor? And what's wrong with liquid cooled?

My bike, according to the FSM weighs 283lbs... And it being the US version, has 26hp... With higher lift cams and a richer jet, it'll do 29.

Ok, so I don't have a long travel susp, but my bike will do what a 17hp 230 will do, and not have to be trailered there and back to do it.

It's fun being able to do over the speed limit...



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Old 11-12-2011, 10:24 PM   #40
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I also have to wonder if everyone here thinks that every bike has to have giant saddle bags, fat saddle and a single sided swingarm. Sometimes a DP bike is just a DP bike, not a long distance tourer for old guys.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:28 PM   #41
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I also have to wonder if everyone here thinks that every bike has to have giant saddle bags, fat saddle and a single sided swingarm. Sometimes a DP bike is just a DP bike, not a long distance tourer for old guys.
DING!

Why does every thread have to turn EVERY bike into a full-bore ADV machine?

Can a 17hp motor tote all the shit you need?


"Well I want lightweight"

"the sub-frame will be weak and make panners a PITA to mount"

"I want simplicity"

"Well I'd like to be able to go faster than the mailman..."

"I want 900hp"

"It'll get piss poor range"

"I want it cheap"

"Great, another fat bloated air cooled idea of what Honda THINKS we want"


PS, I'm SO fkn glad I had enough sense the RESEARCH my bike what I wanted in a bike before I ever bought it... Now I don't have a dog in a damn one of these fights.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:31 PM   #42
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You mean except the large population of us who cannot plate a MX bike no matter what we do to it?
Starting in January, we can plate our off-road bikes in Minnesota.
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:24 AM   #43
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Hope... maybe...

Yesterday I opened up a letter addressed "Attn: Motorcycle Owner" and inside was a six-page opinion survey, prepaid return envelope and a crisp new dollar bill.

The survey, being conducted by the Mackenzie Corp. or Irvine CA, is specifically about dual sport motorcycles and asked many knowledgeable and detailed questions about riding preferences and habits, dual sport bikes, accessories, component quality, form vs. function preferences, etc., etc. It took me nearly a half hour to complete.

Anyway, I see this as a hopeful sign that at least someone is asking about dual sport bikes. There was no indication in the survey form who had commissioned the research, but there were specific questions about most major brands of dual sport bikes - including Aprilia, BMW, Ducati, Honda, KTM, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Triumph and Yamaha - and provisions for those being surveyed to write in other brands.

Did anyone else get this survey form?
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:43 AM   #44
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How about this then -

http://www.honda.com.br/motos/Paginas/XRE%20300.aspx

QUOTE=rufus;17288697]Another ho-hum bike designed by someone who doesn't ride.



A perimeter frame is a dumb idea on an ADV/DS bike. It makes the bike harder to work on and wider with a bigger tank.

That thin seat will be miserable after a few hours.

It will be harder than necessary to put a fender bag on that goofy looking front fender.

The headlight is too low for night time riding. Your spare tube/ fender bag will be in the way.

From the looks of the rear end, it will be a challenge to get a rack and luggage on it.

Just another bike designed by marketing surveys........probably be a nice bike for what it is though.

You would think that at least ONE of the mfgrs would have someone who riders ADV/DS and could offer some input.
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OMG ! That should be in jo mama 's WTF thread.
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:27 AM   #45
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Thread: 2012 Fuel injected CRF250L?!!?




So... you're saying Honda needs to think older-tech?

What's so bad about a better, stronger, faster motor? And what's wrong with liquid cooled?
Ride 75 miles to your spot, have a major boil-over or punch a hole in the radiator ONCE and you'll understand. F.W.I.W. They can make good power from a simple A/O cooled engine when they put their minds to it.
I've even managed to punch a hole in a 91 DR650 oil cooler but, was able to bypass it. (you can't bypass a water filled radiator to make it back home)


My bike, according to the FSM weighs 283lbs... And it being the US version, has 26hp... With higher lift cams and a richer jet, it'll do 29.
Sounds good enough stock for off roading as long as it can loft the front wheel over obstacles.

Ok, so I don't have a long travel susp, but my bike will do what a 17hp 230 will do, and not have to be trailered there and back to do it.
....so will an 08 XT250
It's fun being able to do over the speed limit...
Ok, I'm talking road bike here but, my litte TU250X can cruise all day @ 70 mph. and sometimes sees 80 (actual, not speedo) (so could the old air cooled 08 XT250 I had)



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I definitely agree with your last comment.

Unfortunately (for me) Suzuki built my perfect idea of a D.S. Bike (minus a large enough tank from the factory) With the DRZ250 but, it never became an "S" model here in the States so, I couldn't buy one and have it titled for legal road use here in Pa. (Wow, I might have had to add slightly stiffer springs and a larger tank = that really would have broken the bank)

I'm curious. Just how much $ would you guys pay for the perfect D.S. Bike?
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