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Old 10-27-2011, 06:01 PM   #736
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swear to god the best ones are closest to stock They do damn well for themselves.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #737
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Got the PD you'll see below January this year.

Traded a /5 I owned for 20 years and $500 bucks for it. I stay in a remote part of the Arkan with mostly dirt and gravel roads, the /5 was just not cutting it. Here, I am explaining myself to my trusty old friend why we must part ways.



A few I owned and sold along the way...



The Mystic sold me on the rideability of the later airheads.

Very happy with the way the PD has worked out for me. Drive shaft was just replaced @ 32K when I took it home. Carb rebuild and a few other minor things and its humming right along. List of tinkering includes:

Heidenau K60 Scouts
Touratech brush guards
BMW Multivario Tank Bag (left over from a Mystic I sold)
Trail Tech LED Spot lights
Painted a few plastic parts
Rebuilt Front Caliper
Fork Seals
Carb Rebuild
Replaced leaky stock rear shock with another stock (waiting for it to start leaking too)
Removed SAS
Kisan Signal Minder
Peanut Valve Covers
Ermax Windshield

Headed to Big Bend in a few weeks.

Looked like this when I picked it up


About $1000 later you get this....


wolfman tool bag fits great and holds a BMW supersize tool roll with room for lots more. Tools do not bounce around with the securing straps. Love this bag.
Zip ties keep the turn signals from sagging like an old pair of boobs
$5 foot rests from Hucky's BMW give me a place to hang a pair of tired legs on long runs


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Old 10-27-2011, 06:22 PM   #738
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perfect dirt bike route with a bike lift along the way....there's usually never one around when you need it!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:38 PM   #739
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:40 PM   #740
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This goes to a very happy couple I met over in Missouri during "Falling Leaf" BMW event. If anyone knows this couple, please forward this image to them. I will be framing this and hanging it in my office.

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Old 10-27-2011, 07:58 PM   #741
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so which is better R80GS PD or R100GS PD?
how much weight difference between the two.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:04 PM   #742
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WHich is better is like an oil thread crossed with a tire thread

Both weight roughly the same, R100 slightly heavier in bare form but not much, till you add a big tank and lotsa fuel, etc.

The R80 jacks, THe R100 has paralever driveshaft issues. (once in a while.) The R80 motor doesnt have the ass the R100 does, but it smoother.

R100 forks are better.

Eh. I'm kinda a paralever guy for now, because thats the one I have
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:13 PM   #743
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best would be an R80 G/S w/ R100Forks, or which ever you find at a good price and well maintained.

G/S front end is crap, the GS rear end is crap......
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:02 PM   #744
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so which is better R80GS PD or R100GS PD?
how much weight difference between the two.
The R100GS is heavier and more powerful, it is a better two-up and looooonnngg freeway-ride bike.

The G/S is lighter and smaller, a better solo machine, and better off road bike (more ground clearance) and has more "street cred". On the freeway the R80G/S easily cruises at 80mph, it's easier to pick-up when you drop it and it feels much more intuitive when the going gets less than ideal on any surface.

I've had both, and strongly prefer the R80G/S for everything... I don't have the "slipstream deflector" (fairing) on mine, so extended hours on the freeway are more tiring than my R100GS was...

I am however, biased.


Some reference material:

http://micapeak.com/bmw/gs/

http://www.nebcom.com/noemi/moto/gsdiff.html



Also, the front end on mine works pretty darn well, but I have made a few modifications. It is almost equal to the front end of my R100GS that was also modded.
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:33 PM   #745
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I have only ridden an 80 one time. Lobs gives some well reasoned props on the 80, can't argue with one of em.
I'd trade my 100PD for an 80 set up with a higher 5th gear if a deal came along.

The rpm at highway speed on the 80 was the only real weakness I felt the bike had. That would have to be changed for me. Sure like the idea of any GS with higher ground clearance and less weight to whip around. I have no complaints with mine though, its perfect.

They are all good though. I just got the best one I could find when I was ready to make my move. $500 cash plus my /5... I could not pass it up.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:29 AM   #746
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Thought you might like to see my girlfriends '71 R60/5. Birgit rode this from Mombassa in Kenya to Cape Town, and then up through South and Central America, and then through Mexico, the USA and Canada. It'd had seven owners before she found it rusting under a tree, covered in leaves and bird muck. She stripped it down to the frame with a friend and rebuilt it using second hand parts - so she could learn the bike and would be able to work on it while we were travelling. The only mods were hand guards, a bash plate, Koni shocks and home made racks and panniers. Oh and she took half the padding out of the saddle so she could hit the deck with her feet! We've no idea how many miles the bike had on it but she put just under 100,000 over the four years we spent doing the above. She took the bike everywhere I took my GS - dirt tracks, desert, mud the lot. The only hassle she had with it were with the points and that turned out to be a bent backing plate. The resulting exhaust explosions were 'interesting' as we rode through Colombia - one lot were so powerful they blew the ends off the aging exhaust pipes!
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:19 AM   #747
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best would be an R80 G/S w/ R100Forks, or which ever you find at a good price and well maintained.

G/S front end is crap, the GS rear end is crap......
As somebody who currently owns both I have to agree with this, I know of two G/S, mine being one of them, which have fractured a fork leg below the bottom yoke when used heavily loaded for travel in Africa. The problem with the GS front end is there are no lugs for a second disc as there are on the G/S, BMW would sell you a leg with them fitted but they are no longer available, I believe it is possible to modify a right hand leg to fit the left but have not tried this yet.
The GS is a better bike for carrying a passenger and the standard seat is more comfortable for the rider. The paralever back end is crap but driveshaft life can be extended by fitting a shorter shock from the R100R, I have done this to both mine and Tiffany's bikes and they have both covered over 100,000 miles from a standard BMW shaft despite being used in some fairly adverse conditions.
In case anybody is thinking I have contradicted a previous post about not breaking down in Africa, the fractured fork leg happend to the original owner who went long way down 2 up on it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:30 PM   #748
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...having fun with this one, which I picked up about a year ago.

It suffered from some PO neglect and monkey wrenching:
gummi-carbs, balky starter bendix, R100R speedometer, improperly indexed throttle cam & etc.
good compression though, now purring nicely.

needs a proper skidplate and more action.

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Old 11-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #749
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Thought you might like to see my girlfriends '71 R60/5.
now THAT is cool!


I should definitely be committed for this:

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Old 11-21-2011, 09:20 AM   #750
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G/S front end is crap, the GS rear end is crap......
The GS rear end isn't crap it works well and gives a much better ride than the g/s rear. I take it you mean the rear end is crap because the drive shafts have a tendency to fail.
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