The 2012 CRF250L thread

[ColonelS]

Go to 2:50 on this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrjLc...=youtube_gdata

[eakins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhISXNpGLs

[scooterspirit]

The neat thing about this motor is how smooth it is. It has a linear sort of delivery throughout its range. It's happy enough down low and happy to bounce off the rev limiter. It doesn't pull much below 5.5 but has a real pleasing power band from 6.5-9.5, where it's fun to row the gears. It's not real grunty down low like the XR though, but has more power available, over a wider range and doesn't get breathy.

A 330 watt power supply would be a big plus. I'd like to know how high the seat is, still haven't seen anyone on it or near it..

[huckleberry]

Originally Posted by skatetokil

Why is is that all the Jap manufacturers feel the need to weigh down their MX bikes for on road use? Any moron with an ebay account could dualsport a factory MX bike with less than 25lbs of added stuff. Yamakawahondazuki can't figure this one out?

Yes they have figured that out! They also listen to everyone overhere saying how easy it is to do thats why they let you do it as they can't do it and send it here legaly!

[gore-tx]

Doesn't the Tokyo Motor Show start today? Anything about the unveiling?

[John Ashman]

Someone asked about seat height. According to the dimensions, it would be 33.5" give or take about 1/2", essentially identical to the KLX250S.

I'm somewhat interested, though I'm not sure what would make it any better than the KLX other than the Honda label.

[IheartmyNx]

If Honda thinks it's 359lb CBR is light, this thing will be, at @ 300.

It'll weigh as much as, or within 10lbs of a KTM 6?? bike. I say right on with a 620RXC.

Only, it'll have 25(?) horsepower. @ 40lbs "lighter" than a XRl, but with 25hp instead of a stock 35...


God forbid anyone buy a "used" bike that's better and costs less. Honda purists won't care... They'll buy anything so long's it got HONDA written on it.

Geese... How many "OLD" and "USED" killer Honda's are out there that could just use an aftermarket EFI and be in the same league?

[eakins]

Originally Posted by scooterspirit

The neat thing about this motor is how smooth it is. It has a linear sort of delivery throughout its range. It's happy enough down low and happy to bounce off the rev limiter. It doesn't pull much below 5.5 but has a real pleasing power band from 6.5-9.5, where it's fun to row the gears. It's not real grunty down low like the XR though, but has more power available, over a wider range and doesn't get breathy.

A 330 watt power supply would be a big plus. I'd like to know how high the seat is, still haven't seen anyone on it or near it..

i think honda will make changes (cams etc.) to change that to more low end on this bike vrs your cbr250 motor. no doubt honda makes great motor. i wish they'd outsource them to other mfg. who do better with the rest of the bike.

[IheartmyNx]

Originally Posted by eakins

i think honda will make changes (cams etc.) to change that to more low end on this bike vrs your cbr250 motor

The CBR is already bottom-end... Via a low compression ratio and the EFI. Same as they did with Versys. They used a de-comped Ninja 650 motor.

[eakins]

Originally Posted by IheartmyNx

The CBR is already bottom-end... Via a low compression ratio and the EFI. Same as they did with Versys. They used a de-comped Ninja 650 motor.

maybe so but not pulling below 5.5k rpm is not the best DS motor platform.
guess we'll see.

[IheartmyNx]

Originally Posted by eakins

maybe so but not pulling below 5.5k rpm is not the best DS motor platform.
guess we'll see.

Yep. I've made several comments on it as well. The CBR's bore & stroke is almost identical to the Yam WR250. (and those things are lean)


My NX's DOHC is not. It's stroked and de-bored. I dream of the day I can EFI it...


CBR; 76 x 55
WR.; 77 x 53.6
NX.; 70 x 64.8

[gore-tx]

I definitely like it...

[GotMojo?]

Originally Posted by IheartmyNx

If Honda thinks it's 359lb CBR is light, this thing will be, at @ 300.

It'll weigh as much as, or within 10lbs of a KTM 6?? bike. I say right on with a 620RXC.

Only, it'll have 25(?) horsepower. @ 40lbs "lighter" than a XRl, but with 25hp instead of a stock 35...

God forbid anyone buy a "used" bike that's better and costs less. Honda purists won't care... They'll buy anything so long's it got HONDA written on it.

Geese... How many "OLD" and "USED" killer Honda's are out there that could just use an aftermarket EFI and be in the same league?

Not everybody needs a ton of horsepower. I've got a WR250R and WR250X, both around 30hp, and they are a ton of fun. And ask any of the many WR250R owners who ride their bikes all over the country/world on long trips, and they don't seem to care that the bike is "down on power" compared to other dual sport bikes.

[GotMojo?]

Anybody know what the seat height on this thing is? From the various pics I've seen, it doesn't seem to look as tall as bikes like the WR250R and DRZ400S. Almost looks like it might have less suspension travel or something to get the seat height down a bit.

[eakins]

Originally Posted by gore-tx

I definitely like it...

you went to tokyo?