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Old 01-06-2012, 07:47 AM   #601
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I see comments posted all the times about what jerks Harley Riders are. I just haven't experienced it from any of the numerous Harley riders I have talked to down here in the Southeast. Maybe southerners really are more friendly. And I'm a Damn Yankee

Of course, usually when I talk Harley riders it's out somewhere there are twisty and fun roads. Perhaps that weeds out some of the posers.

I'm not trying to argue with those who have had bad encounters with Harley riders, only posting my own experiences.
My experiences with Hog riders are similar to yours.

A few years ago I met a guy in a rest stop on I90. He was on his way home from completing the first Hoka Hey. I was totally pumped to meet him, the guy was a rider for sure.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:02 AM   #602
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My experiences with Hog riders are similar to yours.

A few years ago I met a guy in a rest stop on I90. He was on his way home from completing the first Hoka Hey. I was totally pumped to meet him, the guy was a rider for sure.
Some Harley riders are real riders, and some are posers. I would guess that it's the posers that cause most of the problems and that the real Harley riders aren't too impressed by the posers either. I try to judge other riders by how they ride and not what they ride.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:55 AM   #603
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Wow, I did not expect to be the only one in support of the large HD rides. And, I noticed the detractors cherry-picked my statements, not wanting to admit they are perhaps a little rigid in their views. I have another experience, having been on several CONUS milIitary vehicle convoys. The disrespect for people doing their job is unbelievable. You think HDs are not the best choice for road travel, try a deuce-and-a-half. A military transport of an M1A1 to a parade (for your benefit, we're told) requires "road captains" to be extremely aggressive to avoid accidents. Not me, you say. Probably not, but that doesn't mean anyone can be allowed to endanger us or themselves. It's difficult to keep the problem individuals from causing convoy problems, and we don't have the time nor interest to differentiate. If these group rides are as dangerous as some have said, where's the news coverage? Not really sorry you've been inconvenienced. If you could get 30 BMW riders to agree on anything, you'd show us how, I'm sure. Sneak down to a Harley dealer on a Saturday, it's fun. Ride anything, you'll be accepted, I guarantee it.
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I don't care if someone wants to ride fast or join a parade, 'that's their choice to take increased risks.

What I do object to is those who cant do it without violating the rights of everyone else to use the road in a safe, reasonable, responsible manner.

The whole concept of taking over a road with road captains making up their own rules as they go is way over the top, and not acceptable at any level.
Guess you cherry pick what you read,

I started riding on Harleys, tried the group ride thing, and hated it. My negative opinion is from my experiences from the inside. I have only been personally "inconvenienced" by parades a couple of times over the past 25 years, and I have only had a couple of negative experiences with squids. I would prefer to keep it that way.


Its not what you do, it's how you do it.

I say again.
You Sir are completely and utterly full of shit.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:09 PM   #604
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you can bitch about the harley riders all you want but ill have to say they do help raise alot of money for alot of great causes. . ive seen the best and worst of this sport and trust me aholes come in all shapes and brand of bikes
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:40 PM   #605
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:13 PM   #606
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Help me I'm having an identity crisis! From reading this thread I've determined that when I ride my Harley I'm an asshole, If I'm on a sportbike I'm a squid, on the motard a houligan, a dualsport an adventurer. What am I? A motorcyclist like all you other FF's. It's not the bike it's the rider. Unless your on a wing or beemer then your an arogant ass or not.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #607
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you can bitch about the harley riders all you want but ill have to say they do help raise alot of money for alot of great causes. . ive seen the best and worst of this sport and trust me aholes come in all shapes and brand of bikes
Amen to that.

I do the Olympia toy run each year, but it is an officially sanctioned event with police handling the road guard duties. I have nothing against Harleys, sport bikes or the people who ride them, just the few who behave badly while riding.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:09 PM   #608
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If these group rides are as dangerous as some have said, where's the news coverage?.
This is a joke ... Right?

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Sneak down to a Harley dealer on a Saturday, it's fun. Ride anything, you'll be accepted, I guarantee it.
Sneak? I have been at a Haley Dealership EVERY Saturday (save one) for the last 10 Months.

There were only two group rides that left there last Summer that did not involve carnage to some degree. Group rides are for fools.

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You think HDs are not the best choice for road travel, try a deuce-and-a-half. ...

BTW, Harleys are the most enjoyable bikes at legal speeds.
Harley's are fine bikes for road travel. To say "most enjoyable" and "best choice" Just comes down to personal choice and what one wants from a bike. Heck even in their own line up there is variety.

I personally would rather travel across the country on an XR1200 than a Road King or Electra Glide.

Get ahold of me if you ever make it over to the Portland area. I'll buy you a beer.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:28 PM   #609
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you can bitch about the harley riders all you want but ill have to say they do help raise alot of money for alot of great causes. . ive seen the best and worst of this sport and trust me aholes come in all shapes and brand of bikes

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So, being inconsiderate to other users of the road is OK as long as their "cause" is good?
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:08 PM   #611
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If these group rides are as dangerous as some have said, where's the news coverage?
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This is a joke ... Right?
Must have been.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:28 AM   #612
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Where I live the bigger issue is with sport bike gangs rather then groups of harleys. Not to say either group has ever really bothered me. Personally I don't like to associate with lemmings and find them somewhat of an eyesore.

In terms of riding down the road it is true groups of Harley's move at a snails pace- but it can be a lot of fun overtaking them.

'hating ' either group is a waste of energy IMHO
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...Because they would not break up their group to allow other motorist the ability to safeely pass their rolling road block.




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If these group rides are as dangerous as some have said, where's the news coverage?
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This is a joke ... Right?
The first report of a 6 bike crash, April 2:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/tw...0402-riu6.html

More information, April 3:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/tw...0402-rjw2.html

The Easter road toll, April 4:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/mo...0403-rkvq.html

The human aftermath, a family left behind, January 1:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/a-...101-1ph77.html


The Coroners finding:
http://images.theage.com.au/file/201...520finding.pdf


The police response:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/su...227-1pb2e.html



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Old 01-07-2012, 11:46 PM   #615
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Closer to home in the PNW, you can bet that these skillzters have Road captains.

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamasc...ing_multi.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Speed
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