Where are all the supermotos going?

[grinder96]

Originally Posted by zxrider11

Nice pictures Gino, hope to ride with you again sometime.

Here are a few more from our Deals Gap trips:

i love and have continued to look(in a private browser) for a Wr250X...I have heard such great things about that little bike...._

[lstzephyr]

Originally Posted by grinder96

beemer 800...stay away from the Supermoto unless you can swing two bikes!!!

Bah. Stay away from bikes that can't be converted if you only want one bike. I have a bike that can do just about anything with a simple wheel swap.

I've raced this thing, commuted to work or class, carryed frightened passengers, luggage, ridden it 600+ miles in a stretch, battered it offroad, rebuilt it a few times and it still just fires up and works.

Its all about perspective. I keep my xr around because I just haven't been able to find anything I want to do with a motorcycle that I cant do with it.

[jon_l]

Originally Posted by Dracothius

I really like supermotos but, only want to own one bike. I want to go on/off road, have a passenger, gor for 300 miles without stopping(have to get a bigger tank on most bikes) and carry a decent bit of luggage. I don't know if i could get one then add a tank, soft luggage and have it carry me and my wife on occasion(cruise 80 by mself, speed limit with her). Everyone I talk to seems to think a single might not be able to handle this as I by myself weigh 265 with no gear at all. I also don't really want to have close service intervals. My current bike is like this and it bothers me. If yoou guys have an idea I would be more then greatful to hear it.

DR650





XR650L

[Dracothius]

I may have to get one of those. I keep looking at those bikes. They seem to fill most of the notches I need to have filled. I was just worried if the motors could ocasionally carry my wife and me at 55-60. I'll have to try and get a test ride on them.

[Lesharoturbo]

Originally Posted by Dracothius

I may have to get one of those. I keep looking at those bikes. They seem to fill most of the notches I need to have filled. I was just worried if the motors could ocasionally carry my wife and me at 55-60. I'll have to try and get a test ride on them.

I really enjoy these power discussions.

I once drove a 1961 VW Beetle from Port St Lucie FL to Grand Rapids MI. What is the relationship you ask? The 1200cc air cooled 4 cylinder has 36hp to move 1500lbs of car and 220lbs of Bernie. I kept it at 75 MPH with me and my luggage with zero issues. I was passing the slower traffic at 80+. I feel a more modern single cylinder engine carrying less than half the payload may do as well if not better than the VW.

By the way, the 1200cc air-cooled boxer only takes 2.5qts of oil and does not have an oil filter.

[Fast1]

Originally Posted by Dracothius

I was just worried if the motors could ocasionally carry my wife and me at 55-60. I'll have to try and get a test ride on them.

With respect to the Husky SM630.. I've had my girlfriend as pillion with me for 150 - 200 mile rides on her SM630 and never had a problem with power at all. Cruise at 75 mph easily and still have plenty of torque to pass. Your biggest worry is about replacing the saddle to add enough comfort for your pillion on pavement runs where you are typically seated. For the SM630 that was about ~$175. The bike also comes with OEM passenger foot pegs.
If your skilled you can still do a partial stoppie with a pillion using some of the best front brakes available for the bike weight.. just make sure they know what you are up to.

[Fast1]

Originally Posted by Lesharoturbo

I really enjoy these power discussions.

I once drove a 1961 VW Beetle from Port St Lucie FL to Grand Rapids MI. What is the relationship you ask? The 1200cc air cooled 4 cylinder has 36hp to move 1500lbs of car and 220lbs of Bernie. I kept it at 75 MPH with me and my luggage with zero issues. I was passing the slower traffic at 80+. I feel a more modern single cylinder engine carrying less than half the payload may do as well if not better than the VW.

By the way, the 1200cc air-cooled boxer only takes 2.5qts of oil and does not have an oil filter.

don't forget to include aerodynamics and gearing in your assumption..

[Dracothius]

Originally Posted by Lesharoturbo

I really enjoy these power discussions.

I'm only worried that the bike will get up to speed so slow that it could cause safety issues when in traffic or merging into a lane in motion(i.e. interstate). Not that I plan on going on the interstate all that much but, it could happen.

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by Dracothius

I'm only worried that the bike will get up to speed so slow that it could cause safety issues when in traffic or merging into a lane in motion(i.e. interstate). Not that I plan on going on the interstate all that much but, it could happen.

i'm 6'0" 225lbs, so not 300lbs, but not a total lightweight. my DRZ will out accelerate the vast majority of cars. getting up to speed for highway merging is not an issue at all for me. (highway speeds around here are 60 to 70 mph, though. i have 14/47 gearing and, if i lived somewhere were highway speeds were 85mph, i might have an issue with maintaining that speed for long distances.)

[Lesharoturbo]

Originally Posted by Fast1

don't forget to include aerodynamics and gearing in your assumption..

No doubt. With the 4 speed, i doubt the gearing of the Beetle form that era was much different then more modern vehicles, but i could be wrong.

Aerodynamics? I would tend to believe the Beetle has several times more frontal area. The overall drag may be close to the same, depending on the riders roundness and aerodynamics. But weight is also a great factor since acceleration is a concern.

[Fast1]

Originally Posted by Dracothius

I'm only worried that the bike will get up to speed so slow that it could cause safety issues when in traffic or merging into a lane in motion(i.e. interstate). Not that I plan on going on the interstate all that much but, it could happen.

You really need to test drive a 600 cc supermoto so you can understand how comical your statement was.. sorry.

[dirtydeeds]

Originally Posted by Fast1

You really need to test drive a 600 cc supermoto so you can understand how comical your statement was.. sorry.

[dirtydeeds]

Originally Posted by therealbigman

Here ya go , ask for Keith.

Helluva nice guy and knows his stuff.


http://ksrwheels.net/

Seems like nice guys. I started a couple emails with them. Thanks for the suggestion.

[therealbigman]

Originally Posted by dirtydeeds

Seems like nice guys. I started a couple emails with them. Thanks for the suggestion.

Yea , they will take care of you and prices are inline also ,

anyway's

about SUPERMOTO's where they're at ,

In Austin Tx a few days ago , I borrowed this from another site .

Yall Enjoy.

[Dracothius]

Originally Posted by Fast1

You really need to test drive a 600 cc supermoto so you can understand how comical your statement was.. sorry.

I have rode a 600. I understand you think a 600 is the bees knees but, when I weigh 300 pounds with gear, then add my wife fully geared, loaded luggage and a full, after market, gas tank, the weight needed to be pulled around will weigh more then the bike itself by a lot. Some 600's would be double their weight at that point. I am saying that with this much weight I could see there being some problems. I'm glad you got a laugh though.