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Old 01-29-2012, 06:13 PM   #316
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:19 PM   #317
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This is as close is it will go................no one else will develop any more tanks for these models, if Thomas can add a 3L to his rear tank that wil be the way to go for a Dakar kit.



Again it depends on what the intended use is !

IF it is for Dakar................we strongly recommend NOT using the Safari front tank.

If its for any other use then the Safari tanks kit is perfectly fine.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:37 PM   #318
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This is as close is it will go................no one else will develop any more tanks for these models,.
Sounds like the 2013 Husaberg is going to be quite a bit different. Is there any inside info you can clue us in on?
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:12 PM   #319
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Just saw that for 2013 Husaberg is basically re-branding the KTM 350?



don't know what this translates into for the 450 though... weird times
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:18 PM   #320
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I know the berg 2 strokes are just redressed KTM's.
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:35 PM   #321
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I know the berg 2 strokes are just redressed KTM's.
True, but until now Husaberg always differentiated (& innovated) when it came to the 4-strokes...
Hope this doesn't mean that they become KTMs with yellow & blue graphics
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:42 PM   #322
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True, but until now Husaberg always differentiated (& innovated) when it came to the 4-strokes...
Hope this doesn't mean that they become KTMs with yellow & blue graphics
I concur
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:14 AM   #323
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True, but until now Husaberg always differentiated (& innovated) when it came to the 4-strokes...
Hope this doesn't mean that they become KTMs with yellow & blue graphics
if they do ,at least they will be on the road to success ,just gotta get the colour changed to orange !!!
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:34 AM   #324
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Just saw that for 2013 Husaberg is basically re-branding the KTM 350?



don't know what this translates into for the 450 though... weird times
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I know the berg 2 strokes are just redressed KTM's.
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True, but until now Husaberg always differentiated (& innovated) when it came to the 4-strokes...
Hope this doesn't mean that they become KTMs with yellow & blue graphics
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if they do ,at least they will be on the road to success ,just gotta get the colour changed to orange !!!



While there might be a smidgin of tongue in cheek irony to what rallye wrote... you gotta ask the question; "why did they buy the Husaberg trademark (and technical R&D) if they were just going to turn the Bergs into blue and yellow plastic covered oranges?"

When KTM first acquired Husaberg, the blue and yellow crew were under a lot of pressure from Mattighofen to get their act together (production effectiveness and production numbers) up to scratch. This I know because I was personally involved (in my day job) when the engineering company I then worked for (2001- 2004), was approached by Husaberg management (the plant was then still located at Rofors in Sweden) to offer and be involved in a project to look at improving the production line logistics and productivity.

In those days, the model range was still soley fourestrokes - the second generation 4t engine 450/550/650 enduro, MX and SM models. By investing in better more effective line/assembly equipment and improving the assemby workstations etc. it was hoped they would attain the productivity/economy that the bosses in Austria decreed the brand needed to meet, and to that end; keep production in Sweden.

But it was too little too late and ultimately the orange bean counters gave the order to close up shop, and Husaberg production was moved to Austria. While a Scandinavian sales and marketing office was established in Örebro, as well as the R & D dept. (for Husaberg)... the folks responsible for what (ultimately) we came to know as the FE 70 degree "sloper" motors.

Now the 450/570 FE and the later introduced 390 FE fourstroke engined Husabergs have - since their introduction in 2009 - met with critical acclaim... for their ingenuity, performance (two things Husaberg has always strived for) and of late - a reputation for build quality and reliability (not always things immediately associated with the early generation Bergs) that saw them gain a great deal of popularity, among the Husaberg faithfull AND riders of other makes (who crossed to the blue yellow camp).

It seemed that the Husaberg brains trust in Örebro had come upon a winner!?

The about a year or so ago... Husaberg got the two stroke TE models to compliment their 4 stroke sibblings... Hey, hang on a minute...? These are just EXC's with the orange plastic replaced, and a set of the *Berg spec' twin chamber USD fork up the front...? What gives (I thought at the time).

While I could have understood, had the Husaberg differed somewhat from the KTM offering from a technical (or capacity class) aspect... this was clearly just a plastics colour change. Okay... so Husa doesn't HAVE a two stroke range to offer (maybe they were going to put the new prototype slant twostrokes into production... and this was a way to "start" the blue two stroke revolution at 'Berg...? I reasoned?)

Then during 2011 came the whispers that the 70 degree engined FE's were getting the "knock on the head" from 2013 onwards... that even the 4 stroke Husabergs would be "blue/yellow" plastic EXC's in the future?

WTF...?

Are the Mattighofen bigwigs really going to maintain the two brand competition by offering the SAME bikes in two different colour schemes (I always thought that was the job of companies like ACERBIS, UFO, Polysport etc.)

Why I wonder...?
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #325
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Then during 2011 came the whispers that the 70 degree engined FE's were getting the "knock on the head" from 2013 onwards... that even the 4 stroke Husabergs would be "blue/yellow" plastic EXC's in the future?

Are the Mattighofen bigwigs really going to maintain the two brand competition by offering the SAME bikes in two different colour schemes (I always thought that was the job of companies like ACERBIS, UFO, Polysport etc.)
Say it ain't so...

that would, to me, spell the blue & yellow bikes demise... Do you think that KTM is guiding Husaberg
to the chopping block to focus on Moto3 and their (increasingly fugly) road sector?

What a shame
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:39 AM   #326
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Say it ain't so... that would, to me, spell the blue & yellow bikes demise... Do you think that KTM is guiding Husaberg to the chopping block
Is the rumor of the 70 degree D.I. 2-stroke dead?
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:12 AM   #327
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Is the rumor of the 70 degree D.I. 2-stroke dead?

... although Custer remained optimistic about his chances right to the bitter end...
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:39 AM   #328
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I´m little dissapointed aboat the rumour. I will build a new Dakarbike based on our exsperiance from this Dakarrally and race it 2013 despite any change in modelprogram.

I will make a 3 liter + tank and move in the fuel system in the tank to get it cooler in those ...... hot days.
Every thing was new on the bike and it was just this small detail that gave me problems.


Other problems is the driver and mechanic responsible to:
  • Clutchline cut off when barkbuster rotated in small crash. No clutch in 150 km dunes
  • Clutch lever came lose and piston disapeared. No clutch 270 km (SS277 km)
  • Vacum line jamed. No fuel to the EFIpump
  • Tryed to refuel i from extra 1 liter bottle when the SS was 280 km long without refuling in a 90km/h speed zone.Lost the fuelcap and a lots off places when it wasnt found that easely.
  • Tryed to pass a watercrossing without getting of the bike. Spotted in Eurosport
  • Oring jamed in injector body and sprayed lots of fuel over the engine in Liason unattended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZDn69MWSg

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If you intrested in fuel tanks: thomas@berglundracing.com
Video blocked due to copyright issues in my country (USA).
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:43 AM   #330
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