DR650SE Index Topic #4- SUSPENSION/CHASSIS

[NordieBoy]

Originally Posted by livin2day

Intiminators with stock springs and Cogent rear good enough for the TAT, SA, and beyond?

With the IMS tank and 8kg rear spring, it'd be sweet.
Safari tank and you'd want .46 or so front springs too.

[livin2day]

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

With the IMS tank and 8kg rear spring, it'd be sweet.
Safari tank and you'd want .46 or so front springs too.

I'm 190lbs and don't have gear weight yet, but assuming a max of 75-100lbs. Thought I'd split the difference between ,46 and .50, and just go with the .48. The intiminators gotta make up for some of that, so concerned the .50's or higher would be too stiff? I'm no enduro rider and am really just looking for something thats not gonna bottom out, will handle the load, and go the distance. Would the .50's be a must given my weight and possibly a Safari tank?

Also, I'm 6ft with a 32" inseam, and it seems the DR's are preferred by the shorter folks because of the lower ride height. How much added height am I looking at with different springs, intiminators, a cogent rear, and a Sergant seat? Think I'll still need the lowered pegs and bar raisers?

Thanks for your replies.

[ADV8]

Originally Posted by acesandeights

Is there any better bolt-on, drop-in suspension than Ricor intimators and rear shock for an aggressive novice rider?

How far do you want to go.

[NordieBoy]

Originally Posted by livin2day

Also, I'm 6ft with a 32" inseam, and it seems the DR's are preferred by the shorter folks because of the lower ride height. How much added height am I looking at with different springs, intiminators, a cogent rear, and a Sergant seat? Think I'll still need the lowered pegs and bar raisers?

That won't raise the height a lot but it'll ride much better.
You'll still need the risers (I'm using a pair of tall Zeta SX bars instead) and footpeg kits to get the ergos better.

[ER70S-2]

The Cogent DR650 Shock Rebuild Thread.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301968

[GODSPEED]

Anybody here have a Ricor rear shock for the DR650? Feedback? Comparison to a Cogent rebuild?

[ER70S-2]

Originally Posted by GODSPEED

Anybody here have a Ricor rear shock for the DR650? Feedback? Comparison to a Cogent rebuild?

I went with the Cogent because: he uses the stock Suzuki body which has the resevoir (more oil, more cooling, longer service life), has rebound damping, he has a presence here on ADVrider and answers questions directly.

DR650 Shock Rebuild:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301968

[NordieBoy]

Originally Posted by ER70S-2

he has a presence here on ADVrider and answers questions directly.

So does Ricor...
hal@ricor and RicorSHX (Don - The inventor).

[V Twin]

Can some one tell me what shim stack comes standard in the intiminators for the dr650, as I have a set out of a
V Strom 650 that also has 43mm forks that I want to fit to the DR

And has any body tryed changing the shims?

Cheers
Peter

[NordieBoy]

Originally Posted by V Twin

Can some one tell me what shim stack comes standard in the intiminators for the dr650, as I have a set out of a
V Strom 650 that also has 43mm forks that I want to fit to the DR

And has any body tryed changing the shims?

Cheers
Peter

Hopefully the internal diameter of the forks is the same.

My TT350 has 41mm forks and Intiminators for the 41mm KLR forks wouldn't fit.
Triumph Scrambler ones did though.

The DR ones come with 2x0.010" and 1x0.015"

If anything, I'd go slightly lighter if you're more off-road biased.
Say, maybe 1x0.015" + 1x0.010"

Depends on the rest of the holes and inertia valve too.

What shims are in the ones you've got?

[V Twin]

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

Hopefully the internal diameter of the forks is the same.

My TT350 has 41mm forks and Intiminators for the 41mm KLR forks wouldn't fit.
Triumph Scrambler ones did though.

The DR ones come with 2x0.010" and 1x0.015"

If anything, I'd go slightly lighter if you're more off-road biased.
Say, maybe 1x0.015" + 1x0.010"

Depends on the rest of the holes and inertia valve too.

What shims are in the ones you've got?

The V Strom ones come with 3x0.012" and 2x0.015"

Wow I am glad that I didnt just drop them straight in.

Thanks that give me a good starting point.

[NordieBoy]

Originally Posted by V Twin

The V Strom ones come with 3x0.012" and 2x0.015"

Wow I am glad that I didnt just drop them straight in.

Thanks that give me a good starting point.

I rode my 120kg TT350 with the stock Triumph Scrambler ones in.

Quite harsh...

[MAXNX]

Hey all,just fitted a KX450 shock to my DR650.
It is really the same deal as the DRZ400 shock as far as milling down the dog bone to accept the smaller lower mount. I did use different bearing.
I shaved the dog bone down to 21mm and used this bearing
09263-17032 Suzuki needle bearing 17x24x15

I then took .5mm off each side of the lower shock mount and cut down the stock bushing to the proper length.
I did have to drill new holes for mounting approx 5/8 inch from stock KX holes otherwise it would not mount up.
On the top mount I used 2 -10mm washers on each side to center the top or you could use a 4mm bushing on each side,I had trouble finding one and the washers were easy enough and perfect width.

I chose this shock mostly because it was re valved/sprung for my weight. Plus I got a little more length out of it to help with the rmz fork upgrade. I didn't take any pictures because It was kind of a pain in the arse to weasel it in there and I was in no mood to take pics. The head pipe needs to be put in first and the exhaust removed from rear. In other words you can not feed the stock head pipe past the spring and reservoir with the mid pipe attached.

Now I just need to finish the details of the fork upgrade-ignition,headlight,can't wait to try this thing out!

[TheMightyQuinn]

Originally Posted by eakins

i run the proper spring rate and intiminators valves in the forks
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468588

and a cogent rear shock w/ the proper spring
http://motocd.com/index.php?option=c...id=35&Itemid=1

unreal improvement over stock!

Eakins,

Could you please elaborate on the "unreal improvement"? I've got 20K on my DR650. Ride it hard on both street and trails. I'm still on the stock suspension with only the rear preload and damping set to near max. I'm 210 lbs and usually carry 10-40 lbs on the rear rack. About the only things I cannot do well with my setup are hitting big bumps (large whoops and jumps) fast, and keeping up with race type dirt bikes in the rough stuff. I'm considering the suspension mods you mention. Will these mods allow for fast riding in the conditions I've mentioned?

[eakins]

Originally Posted by ely243

Eakins,

Could you please elaborate on the "unreal improvement"? I've got 20K on my DR650. Ride it hard on both street and trails. I'm still on the stock suspension with only the rear preload and damping set to near max. I'm 210 lbs and usually carry 10-40 lbs on the rear rack. About the only things I cannot do well with my setup are hitting big bumps (large whoops and jumps) fast, and keeping up with race type dirt bikes in the rough stuff. I'm considering the suspension mods you mention. Will these mods allow for fast riding in the conditions I've mentioned?

yes. compared to stock i ride alot faster, but still not USD fast.
if you hope to keep up with true dirt bikes you bought the wrong bike.
go buy a wr450f as the dr is not a true dirt bike.
all the $ in the world won't make it KTM plush.
the DR is a japanese dual-sport from the 90s, nothing more, but they make great day exploring and adv touring bikes.


since i wrote that i figured out my fork spring (.50 eibach) is for someone aprox. 215lbs so i'll be pulling that one out selling it and getting a .47 eibach (175lbs)