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Old 08-14-2011, 12:29 PM   #1351
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Missing Marker found

I was in Arthurdale (just west of Kingwood) on 13 Aug 2011 and stopped by the Visitor Center. Lo and behold, down in the flower bed next to the entrance was a marker - Preston County / Maryland. The Visitor Center was closed, so I could not ask anyone about it. There are several markers like this that are missing or were just recently replaced, from the borders on Rt 7, Rt 219, and Rt 50. I don't know the original location of this one, but will do a little research.

UPDATE: This marker was replaced in 2013 at the Rt 7 / Preston County- Maryland State Line location - see Post #1382 on Page 93.




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Located in the flower bed next to the entrance of the Arthurdale Visitor Center. (Yes, I was in the cage today.)

ALSO: One of the nearby markers was repainted and moved to a much better spot - Click here: http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9902444&postcount=397


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Old 08-19-2011, 11:18 AM   #1352
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Thanks!! Is this the one located on Rt 2 about 4 miles south of Ravenswood?

I will update the spreadsheet.

Have a safe trip to WA.

That's the one. Thanks!
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:49 AM   #1353
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Looks like Tucker County is replacing some old or missing markers. I remember this marker being here when I moved here in the 80's. It's been gone for some time now. Saw it last night coming home from a two week ride.

This is half way between Davis and Canaan Heights on Rt 32.



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Old 08-24-2011, 10:52 AM   #1354
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Looks like Tucker County is replacing some old or missing markers. I remember this marker being here when I moved here in the 80's. It's been gone for some time now. Saw it last night coming home from a two week ride.

This is half way between Davis and Canaan Heights on Rt 32.
Good one! This one was listed as "Missing". I will update the spreadsheet ASAP.

Please continue to send in photos of any markers that appear to be new or newly-repainted. I will try to keep the spreadsheet updated.

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Old 09-05-2011, 05:59 AM   #1355
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UPDATE FROM POST #1178 (Page 79)

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File Photo - Posted 20 April 2010)


UPDATE: I received an email with some interesting information on this marker. She also sent 2 photos/scans (including an old hand-drawn map), which are posted below. Thanks, Alisa!


Hi, I saw your post on the Adventure Rider website (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407164&page=79) about the Three Springs Church historical marker in Weirton, WV. You mentioned historic notes.

My husband is a descendant of James Campbell, who donated the land for the church in 1790, and we have an old map (drawn in 1959) of the church land and cemetery. I attached a scan for you.

By all accounts, nothing remains of the church or cemetery, and I can't tell by looking at modern maps how exactly the 1959 map lines up with modern streets. The only clear road is Pennsylvania Avenue, with a note that in 1959 the church and cemetery were "- Now - Weirton (Heights) W.VA. rear of firehouse + Weirton HGH'S Pharmacy." I don't think the firehouse and pharmacy are there anymore.


I have attached a Google image of the corner of Pennsylvania Ave. and S. 17th Street in Weirton. You can just make out the historical marker you photographed on the left-hand side of the photo. I think the two-story building on the corner of 17th Street & Pennsylvania Ave. looks like it could have been a firehouse in 1959. It has a wide opening (now two windows and a door) right next to a regular door. It's also south of the maker, which is where the marker says the church was located.

The Three Springs Church was part of an early 19th century movement called "The Great Awakening," characterized by spirited "revivals" held in churches, and sometimes around campfires. The movement was influenced by a Pennsylvania minister named Alexander Campbell. He was no relation to James Campbell, but James and the other members of the Three Springs Church may have been what other churches called "Campbellites." Many people were baptized at night in the Ohio River - even in Winter! (I've got some other family letters that mention Campbellite meetings in the area in the 1850s.) The followers didn't like the name "Campbellite;" they called themselves "Disciples of Christ." Anyway, in 1920 one of James' great-grandsons wrote a letter describing the Three Springs Church. I have not corrected his creative spelling.


The old Three Springs
Presbyterian Church was on this land and the unmarked grave of Great
Grandfather is near the site of this church of which he was a member. And all
other graves of the cemetery once in the woods have been plowed over and the
land cultivated. This church was the scene of what was called “The Great
Falling Down.” After a large protracted meeting, people became so excited as to
fall down in a kind of epileptic fit and had the jerks so that their hair was
said to crack like whips, but it died out and it never had a recurrence and the
church moved to a new location and two churches now originated in this old
pioneer church, one in Hollidays Cove, the other in Paris, Pennsylvania. This
old church building was in ruins when I first passed it, when not more than
four or five years old, which I did with quick step lest some of the ghosts
that some of my superstitious ancesters told me lurked about old deserted
churches should attack me. When last I visited the graves of my grandparents
and saw the desolation, it seemed to me as if all the solemn voices of nature
were singing a sad requiem over the fallen dead. The man that cannot be
impressed by such scenes bring up memories of the past must have a flinty
sensibilities.

- written by John P. Campbell (1831-1930)

Can you send me a citation for your marker photos? I'm not planning on publishing them, but I am making prints for my husband's family, and I like to be sure they know where everything comes from.

Alisa



(Note: Marker is visible to the left, behind the stop sign - Mike Elyard - pnoman)




(Note: I believe the marker is situated at the top of this map, above the drawing of the church, looking south toward the white oak tree - Mike Elyard - pnoman)
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:48 AM   #1356
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I just want to thank everyone that has worked on this project for providing a great educational service. I teach 8th grade WV Studies, and my students have benefited greatly from your website. I've been able to show students the markers for various historic events that we've covered in class. An extra thank you for providing images of the locations mentioned in the markers in many of your posts.

Thank you!
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:18 PM   #1357
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We're honored!!

Thanks - and "Yes" to using any/all photos and information in this thread. Glad to help your students learn more about WV History.

And another "Thank You" to all of the ADV Riders who contributed to this project.

I sent you an email with more info.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:27 PM   #1358
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Bravo Mike for your starting that project. Whodathunked it'd become an educational tool to boot. You are to be commended for your efforts to see it through.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:25 AM   #1359
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I'm pretending, Martha is on her game

It never ceases to awe me, the amazing powers of perception that Martha commands.


Business trip, Martha's riding shotgun in the work cage. I've got it on cruise, headed toward the center of the universe, daydreaming. "There's a marker" interrupts my dream, I close down on the binders. Short on perception, but my reflexes are still ok.


I've looked the spreadsheet over, from the first post, and didn't see it listed. It would have been akin to blasphemy for us to go through with the schtick, we'll try to get a couple sets of handlebars next to it later this year.

Nicholas County, Mountaineer Expressway (rt 19) South bound lane, Whipporwill Rd, about 1/2 mile South of the Summersville Lake bridge.

"Hawks Nest Tunnel Disaster Workers Grave Site"



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Old 02-04-2012, 03:42 PM   #1360
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It never ceases to awe me, the amazing powers of perception that Martha commands.


Business trip, Martha's riding shotgun in the work cage. I've got it on cruise, headed toward the center of the universe, daydreaming. "There's a marker" interrupts my dream, I close down on the binders. Short on perception, but my reflexes are still ok.

I've looked the spreadsheet over, from the first post, and didn't see it listed. It would have been akin to blasphemy for us to go through with the schtick, we'll try to get a couple sets of handlebars next to it later this year.

Nicholas County, Mountaineer Expressway (rt 19) South bound lane, Whipporwill Rd, about 1/2 mile South of the Summersville Lake bridge.

"Hawks Nest Tunnel Disaster Workers Grave Site"
Chip/Martha - Great find! Looks like a newly minted 2011 marker. That's just about 1/4 mile away from the Hughes Ferry Bridge marker on Old Rt 19, about 200 yards off the opposite side of the 4-lane. This one looks much closer to the 4-lane.

Seems odd they would put this one here when the original marker site was near Hawks Nest SP on Rt 60, about 25 miles away. But, after reading it closer, this marker is different from the original one. The original marker did not have the workers grave site mentioned in the title or text. This must be where the workers were re-buried.

I'll be sure to update the spreadsheet as soon as possible. I will also shoot Joe Geiger a quick email heads-up.

Thanks for keeping this thread alive while I'm bikeless.

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Old 02-09-2012, 01:44 PM   #1361
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Received the March issue of "Wonderful West Virginia" today and noticed in the "West Virginia Bookshelf" section they are offering a book titled "Marking Our Past": a 208 page work describing the historical markers in the state.

Was wondering if the efforts of those who contributed to this thread have been noted? I certainly hope so (I'm not one of them).

Just a FYI.

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Received the March issue of "Wonderful West Virginia" today and noticed in the "West Virginia Bookshelf" section they are offering a book titled "Marking Our Past": a 208 page work describing the historical markers in the state.

Was wondering if the efforts of those who contributed to this thread have been noted? I certainly hope so (I'm not one of them).

Just a FYI.

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Thanks for the note. The last issue I know of was published in 2002. Perhaps the next edition will have some of our photos for new/replaced markers. Joe Geiger is pretty good with keeping track of all the updates we sent, so I'm hoping there may be a brief credit for our work if they use any of our material in the next book. We'll see.
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I was down in your state grabbing a tag last weekend and got a couple markers. I know they're bruces. From the spreadsheet, vatrader01 got both of these. Hopefully you don't mind bruces. From the looks of the spreadsheet it's a gonna be tough to get any new ones, but I'll do what I can whenever I get back in the area.


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I was down in your state grabbing a tag last weekend and got a couple markers. I know they're bruces. From the spreadsheet, vatrader01 got both of these. Hopefully you don't mind bruces. From the looks of the spreadsheet it's a gonna be tough to get any new ones, but I'll do what I can whenever I get back in the area.
Thanks for the photos. Like a good book, these markers can be enjoyed more than once. There were several (over a dozen) new/replacement markers being put up in the Eastern Panhandle, so if you see a shiny new one, it may be a "first post".
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UPDATES:

#1) I received an interesting email from Matt with the following info on the US Coast and Gedetic Survey mark on Post #925 (Fort Scammon)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...407164&page=62

These benchmark disks are the actual points where a surveyor's plumb bob would have hung in the center of the disk (at the cross mark of the arrow.) This particular disk is called a 'reference mark', and the arrow actually points to another disk that is designated the 'station mark'. It is stamped with its unique designation and the year it was monumented, in this case 'FORT 1944' The disks are used as reference points for future surveyors and mapping.
You can find more information from the following link:
http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.aspx?PID=HX3089 <http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.aspx?PID=HX3089>

And I have included more detailed information from the NGS website (www.ngs.noaa.gov <http://www.ngs.noaa.gov> ) below. If you are wondering why I am writing you about this - 'Benchmarking' or searching for these disks is a hobby of mine and I stumbled across the picture you took of this one while searching on the internet. Hopefully this information will help you unravel some mystery behind the marker.

#2) I spoke with Joe Geiger a couple of weeks ago when I was in Charleston. He is going to send me a list of recently added markers. There are about 20 new markers that aren't even on the original list or have been missing for years. I will post the list ASAP and we can head out for some new adventures.
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