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Old 02-24-2012, 01:32 AM   #1741
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Yes, it was a good turn out & we were about 19 of us. We usually split into 2-3 groups on long rides; Hyper fast, fast & slow group. Hyper does twice the speed limit Fast lands up doing not more than 20-30 Kmph more than speed limit & slow group usually sticks to 80 Kmph. That said, most Indian highways have speed limit of 80 Kmph & state highways like 40 or 60 Kmph & city limits are not more than 40. As there's so much corruption in the country, so are law enforcers too; they usually don't care unless they need some money. But wearing riding gears & riding a motorcycle is not something that anyone sees over their lifetime .

A week ago one Police stops me for usual check (like license etc) & asks if I've nerval problems pointing out the knee guard I'm wearing Such is the knowledge level here about riding gears.

Again speed limits are just observed using a mobile van carrying laser guns etc. We haven't usually come across such mobile vans so far. Even if we do, we can get away with a mere sum of Rs 300 US $6.4 . And believe me it isn't a big amount compared to the cost of rides we own
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:14 AM   #1742
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winter here still too but I did get out last satuday for 100 miles.
Cool to see the photos of Aarge and his group...
Its the universal apeal of motorcycles
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:41 AM   #1743
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Don't want to rub it in but it's been 37c all weekend, it's ok while moving (vented jacket) It even rained for 10 minutes but stayed hot.

Hope the weather improves shortly so we get more photos to check out.

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Old 02-27-2012, 12:42 PM   #1744
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Yes, it was a good turn out & we were about 19 of us. We usually split into 2-3 groups on long rides; Hyper fast, fast & slow group. Hyper does twice the speed limit Fast lands up doing not more than 20-30 Kmph more than speed limit & slow group usually sticks to 80 Kmph. That said, most Indian highways have speed limit of 80 Kmph & state highways like 40 or 60 Kmph & city limits are not more than 40. As there's so much corruption in the country, so are law enforcers too; they usually don't care unless they need some money. But wearing riding gears & riding a motorcycle is not something that anyone sees over their lifetime .

A week ago one Police stops me for usual check (like license etc) & asks if I've nerval problems pointing out the knee guard I'm wearing Such is the knowledge level here about riding gears.

Again speed limits are just observed using a mobile van carrying laser guns etc. We haven't usually come across such mobile vans so far. Even if we do, we can get away with a mere sum of Rs 300 US $6.4 . And believe me it isn't a big amount compared to the cost of rides we own

Hi Aargee
It sounds like you guys get off lightly when it comes to speeding and speeding penalties.

Over here, when you speed you need to be constantly alert and on the look out for - road-side static speed cameras, mobile speed traps (hand-held radar guns), camera vans as well as marked and unmarked police vehicles.

Fortunately when you get out of the city and into the vast countryside to the north of Glasgow there are just so many miles of open roads that these devices are spread thinly. - On a typical Sunday covering 250 miles we will encounter maybe a couple of patrol cars and one speed trap (usually in a village) Occasionally we will also see a camera van parked up out in the countryside, typically on the A82 up near Glen Coe.

On the single carriageway roads that you see in most of my pics the speed limit is 60mph (96kph) …In villages it goes down to 40 or 30mph and motorways up to 70mph.
On these 60mph roads, the police do not tend to bother you up to 70mph.
Over that you are likely to be booked for speeding …. Starting with a fixed penalty of £60 (95 US$) and 3 penalty points. These penalty points last for 3 years on your license .
(Get 12 points and you will lose your license for 3 or 6 months).
Get caught doing over 80mph (129kph) and you will be taken to court for a stronger fine and more points . The exact amounts will depend on individual magistrates, last time I was done it was for 86mph and I got a £250 fine (395 US$) and 4 points.
Over 90 mph (145kph) and you will be fined more and most likely banned for 3 – 6 months.
Be unlucky enough to get caught doing over 120mph (193kph) and you are in real danger of doing jail-time. - Yes, the hysteria over speeding here can mean speeders being treated worse than muggers and burglars.

Fortunately many passing motorists will flash warnings of police speed traps ahead – (after all, - we have to look out for each other) and this has saved my bacon on several occasions.

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Old 02-27-2012, 12:56 PM   #1745
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winter here still too but I did get out last satuday for 100 miles.
Cool to see the photos of Aarge and his group...
Its the universal apeal of motorcycles

Good to hear it ..... Unfortunately, our two wheel exploits have been restricted to cycling for the past week whilst we wait for sping .... still, at least it's helping me get fit for the riding season.

On the canal near Clydebank ...cycling up to Loch Lomond.


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Old 02-27-2012, 12:58 PM   #1746
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Don't want to rub it in but it's been 37c all weekend, it's ok while moving (vented jacket) It even rained for 10 minutes but stayed hot.

Hope the weather improves shortly so we get more photos to check out.

Cheers Terry

I hope so too mate ..... mind you, 37C sounds like too much of a good thing! ..... I'd be melting in my leathers!

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Old 02-28-2012, 07:50 AM   #1747
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Hi Kamchat
Having visited US several times & driven there, I understand what it is like violating the law & driving & how the system works.

Looks like you're missing all the fun I commute about 45 miles to office everyday & touch atleast 75-80mph on a certain stretch of highway...atleast!!! This week I work EST, so when I go back home (early morning like 4 AM) sky is the limit ofcourse, you need to watch out...what you need to watch? Let me put the horrors at the end

So, you guys do max of 70mph? Is that all? My little CBR maxes between 85-90mph anyday & only for once I did 96 mph with great difficulty. But looks like I can join your speeds

If you'd thought there's no cop trouble then I'm sorry my friend, I personally love that trouble because there're bigger ones than that which you can't imagine. Well what can you expect on a road? A moose? Duck? And what? Here, you can find people waving their hands (as sort of asking to stop while they cross the road), cattles, pedestrians walking on road (you read it right PEDESTRIANS walking on road), no lane for cyclist, sometimes bullock carts, uncategorized vehicles

Here's what an uncategorized vehicle is...


Now about the law, people love to cross the signal when its RED (oh!!! we still follow the British style of Green go & Red Stop & Amber alert), no lane discipline right from motorcycles that are called murdercycles in my city, cars, trucks, buses, people riding & driving (includes cyclists to truckers) in wrong lane (driving in right side), jaywalking, vehicles cutting right in front of you & all this happens when no one wears seat belts & no riders wear gears If you question or raise question on the road as why they violate law, chances are high that they worship us & our ancestors with choice of words

So you see, how brave we Indians are !!! Seriously speaking, if you can ride/drive in this country, you can ride/drive anywhere in the world. Had I not been to US, I would've not been wearing gears, not learnt the rules of riding/driving & hell...wouldn't even be here to talk all these!!!

So what bicycle you have? Pls put up a pic of it
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:15 PM   #1748
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Hi Kamchat
Having visited US several times & driven there, I understand what it is like violating the law & driving & how the system works.

Looks like you're missing all the fun I commute about 45 miles to office everyday & touch atleast 75-80mph on a certain stretch of highway...atleast!!! This week I work EST, so when I go back home (early morning like 4 AM) sky is the limit ofcourse, you need to watch out...what you need to watch? Let me put the horrors at the end

So, you guys do max of 70mph? Is that all? My little CBR maxes between 85-90mph anyday & only for once I did 96 mph with great difficulty. But looks like I can join your speeds

If you'd thought there's no cop trouble then I'm sorry my friend, I personally love that trouble because there're bigger ones than that which you can't imagine. Well what can you expect on a road? A moose? Duck? And what? Here, you can find people waving their hands (as sort of asking to stop while they cross the road), cattles, pedestrians walking on road (you read it right PEDESTRIANS walking on road), no lane for cyclist, sometimes bullock carts, uncategorized vehicles

Here's what an uncategorized vehicle is...


Now about the law, people love to cross the signal when its RED (oh!!! we still follow the British style of Green go & Red Stop & Amber alert), no lane discipline right from motorcycles that are called murdercycles in my city, cars, trucks, buses, people riding & driving (includes cyclists to truckers) in wrong lane (driving in right side), jaywalking, vehicles cutting right in front of you & all this happens when no one wears seat belts & no riders wear gears If you question or raise question on the road as why they violate law, chances are high that they worship us & our ancestors with choice of words

So you see, how brave we Indians are !!! Seriously speaking, if you can ride/drive in this country, you can ride/drive anywhere in the world. Had I not been to US, I would've not been wearing gears, not learnt the rules of riding/driving & hell...wouldn't even be here to talk all these!!!

So what bicycle you have? Pls put up a pic of it

No...... Lol! - We don't do 70mph max! ....... I have had the gixxer 'maxed out' on the odd occasion ..... but a typical rideout would probably involve riding in the range of 80 - 130 mph (when the 'coast is clear') ... .although it's not about straight line speed - the real fun is in the bends.

Yes, I can imagine riding in India is quite hazardous..... I used to live in Africa, and I have driven quite a lot in Romania which used to be quite bonkers at times (especially at night - drunk people wandering down the middle of the road and unlit horses and carts ).

As for a pic of my bicycle...here you go.... It is nothing special ..I bought it for my teenage son years ago but he doesn't use it anymore so I started putting it to use.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:20 AM   #1749
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No...... Lol! - We don't do 70mph max! ....... I have had the gixxer 'maxed out' on the odd occasion ..... but a typical rideout would probably involve riding in the range of 80 - 130 mph (when the 'coast is clear') ... .although it's not about straight line speed - the real fun is in the bends.

Yes, I can imagine riding in India is quite hazardous..... I used to live in Africa, and I have driven quite a lot in Romania which used to be quite bonkers at times (especially at night - drunk people wandering down the middle of the road and unlit horses and carts ).

As for a pic of my bicycle...here you go.... It is nothing special ..I bought it for my teenage son years ago but he doesn't use it anymore so I started putting it to use.
You haven't had the time to paint it to match your plane yet?


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Old 02-29-2012, 02:11 PM   #1750
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LOL ! Nice one. .........

.... No, - I have been too busy watching my butler paint the Bentley and yacht......
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:55 PM   #1751
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LOL ! Nice one. .........

.... No, - I have been too busy watching my butler paint the Bentley and yacht......

Damn those butlers can be slow. A red white and blue Bentley, very . . .Wayne Rooney.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #1752
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Whoa! I caught up! Great thread Kamchat, and great pictures as well.
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:08 AM   #1753
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I actually kinda liked the idea of sharing some knowledge on speed limits and speeding fines in different countries!
As I see, India is good place for speedfreaks in T-shirts... while Bonny Scotland is to be taken with a pinch of salt rather.

If any of you should ever come to pay Switzerland a two-wheeled visit (which I strongly recommend!!) - take care. Fines are high and rules are many... Hehe.

I will put some main facts together.

Let's start with general speed limits:

Built-up areas: 50 kph
Outside built-up areas: 80 kph
Motorway: 120 kph



As for the speeding fines:

Built-up areas:





Outside built-up areas:




Motorways:




The "at least 800"-thing means that the fine will be announced by the judge, according to the circumstances, his mood and above all your income and personal situation.
Normally you will get 10 daily rates. The actual rate will be determined as follows:
monthly net income - 25%, divided by 30.

Let's take Kam's example from a few posts ago:

He was caught doing 42 kph too much. (He got a fine of 395 USD and 4 points, remember?)
If he does that here in Switzerland, the outcome will be the following:

Assuming that he's done it for the first time, he will get a fine of 10 daily rates + an unconditional fine. Both depend on the income. I don't have the slightest idea what his income is (but seeing as he's got a plane painted in his bike's colours... ). So let's say it's 8000 Swiss Francs, which is pretty average. The unconditional fine will be 1/4 of that = 2000 CHF. The daily rates will be 200 CHF, so also 2000 CHF altogether.
So the overall fine will be 4000 CHF = 4400 USD = 2800 Sterling.
Add to this an enormous amount of administrative costs, possibly 1000 CHF or more.
Additionally he will lose his driving license for 3 months and get a probation period of 2 years. If he's caught again during these 2 years, things will get really nasty. Don't even ask.

Reminder - this is for doing 122 kph on a country road.

Btw, the maximum daily rate can be 3000 CHF, the maximal number of rates 360 - that gives a maximum fine of 1'080'000 CHF (745'000 GBP).
In January, a millionaire was caught doing 140 kph on a country road, not for the first time, with his Ferrari. He was condemned to 10 days in prison and 300'000 CHF...


Having said this, Switzerland has the most amazing roads for motorbiking. You don't even have to speed to have maximal fun. You just have to take the right roads. On the best passes you will not even be able to go 80 kph without being totally on the limit and having Rossi-skills.
So, as long as you behave in built-up areas and on the motorway, you should be fine.
I've been living here for 2 1/2 years and been here before for many holiday trips and I have never been caught for speeding.
So come and visit Switzerland, it's always worth a travel.

Cheers to everyone out there!
Have a nice Sunday.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:12 PM   #1754
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AllBlackPearl - AWESOME!!! Excellent education. Tks
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:39 AM   #1755
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Damn those butlers can be slow. A red white and blue Bentley, very . . .Wayne Rooney.

Wayne Rooney! Good God! ...... such ghastly 'nouveau riche' vulgarity will never do ..... I shall instruct Jenkins to repaint it good old 'British racing green' at once.
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