Trials tires on the road.

MILLENNIUM FALCON · 03-18-2012, 08:12 PM

I am thinking about running a trials tire on my enduro and wanted to know if anyone has experience on how they hold up with some road miles on them. This bike is not a commuter. It is my trail bike but some of the trails are 15-30 miles from my house. I am looking at the DOT shinko trials tire 110/80/19. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks

Happy Snapper · 03-19-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MILLENNIUM FALCON

I am thinking about running a trials tire on my enduro and wanted to know if anyone has experience on how they hold up with some road miles on them. This bike is not a commuter. It is my trail bike but some of the trails are 15-30 miles from my house. I am looking at the DOT shinko trials tire 110/80/19. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks

There was a time like back in the 70s that all trail bikes came with Trials Universal Tyres.

They seemed to work well back then..... so why not now?

Happy Snapper · 03-19-2012, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MILLENNIUM FALCON

I am thinking about running a trials tire on my enduro and wanted to know if anyone has experience on how they hold up with some road miles on them. This bike is not a commuter. It is my trail bike but some of the trails are 15-30 miles from my house. I am looking at the DOT shinko trials tire 110/80/19. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks

There was a time like back in the 70s that all trail bikes came with Trials Universal Tyres.

They seemed to work well back then..... so why not now?

bass_on_tap · 03-19-2012, 03:53 AM

Buy a PIRELLI mt43 trials rear tire, it is one of the least expensive trials tires available. It is not as soft as the more expensive professional trial tires but that's a good thing. The stiffer side walls allow you to ride the road without it feeling like you have a flat tire. They hold up well, don't get hot at 80 mph and offer good traction in the woods. I say "good" because there are lots of different conditions out there. In the rock and roots, it's excellent. In the mud it's poor compared to a knobby. I have ridden it in the sand of south Jersey Pine Barron's and it works very good. In hard pack and loam, it's great. In the rocks and roots, it excels. In muddy corners, you need to use a different approach or you'll find yourself on the ground swapped in the opposite direction. I haven't gone back to a knobby yet. I tell people who ask me if I like the trials tire, it's a lot like a tennis shoe where a knobby is like a work boot. In the mud, the tennis shoe will suffer, in pretty much everything else, the tennis shoe will get you through faster and with less slip. All I can say is try it and see for yourself. If you don't like it, folks will buy it in a snap from you because even half worn, it's a great tire with excellent traction unlike a half worn knobby which is pretty much useless. Good luck.

MILLENNIUM FALCON · 03-19-2012, 07:01 AM

Thanks for the info guys. I could run the Dunlop up front but I couldn't find a 19" rear. Shinko and bee rubber are the only ones I have found so far.

ManiacalChicken · 03-19-2012, 07:12 AM

Pirelli MT43 is what alot of enduro guys are running and all i heard is good results.

bass_on_tap · 03-19-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ManiacalChicken

Pirelli MT43 is what alot of enduro guys are running and all i heard is good results.

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The Pirelli MT43 is DOT rated also.

I don't know anybody who uses a trials tire up front.

Crazy_Dave · 03-19-2012, 08:32 AM

I will be running a MT43 on my 450EXC as soon as my second beadlock comes in. I dont think they come in a 19in tho.

MILLENNIUM FALCON · 03-19-2012, 07:21 PM

Yeah I checked but sadly they dont come in 19's. I have heard some really good things about the shinko 255 and they have a 110/80/19 for around $100, so I might give em' a shot. Has anyone run them on their bikes?

nuggets · 03-20-2012, 06:44 AM

I had good results from the Shinko SR241 tire. I mostly used them for commuting. I was pleased with the off road and road performance of the tire, and I got about 4000 miles out of the rear tire.

Not a great tire for mud.

MILLENNIUM FALCON · 03-20-2012, 10:59 AM

What are you guys running up front?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass_on_tap

Buy a PIRELLI mt43 trials rear tire, it is one of the least expensive trials tires available. It is not as soft as the more expensive professional trial tires but that's a good thing. The stiffer side walls allow you to ride the road without it feeling like you have a flat tire. They hold up well, don't get hot at 80 mph and offer good traction in the woods. I say "good" because there are lots of different conditions out there. In the rock and roots, it's excellent. In the mud it's poor compared to a knobby. I have ridden it in the sand of south Jersey Pine Barron's and it works very good. In hard pack and loam, it's great. In the rocks and roots, it excels. In muddy corners, you need to use a different approach or you'll find yourself on the ground swapped in the opposite direction. I haven't gone back to a knobby yet. I tell people who ask me if I like the trials tire, it's a lot like a tennis shoe where a knobby is like a work boot. In the mud, the tennis shoe will suffer, in pretty much everything else, the tennis shoe will get you through faster and with less slip. All I can say is try it and see for yourself. If you don't like it, folks will buy it in a snap from you because even half worn, it's a great tire with excellent traction unlike a half worn knobby which is pretty much useless. Good luck.

nanotech9 · 03-20-2012, 02:50 PM

all kinds of stuff... I usually combine an MT43 with a Moto-Z Terrapactor intermediate up front (natural rubber, local dealer imports them).

They hold up great. I regularly run 100+ on the '04 KTM 450 EXC with the MT43 on the rear at 8psi and RAIL the corners on the blacktop. VERY stable, even at those speeds. Can pretty much drag a knee on them.

The Moto-Z holds up well on road too. Very aggressive in the dirt as well. The soft terrain is nearly the same, and works well in sand.

the MT43 is such a great tire I would recommend you re-lace your hub to an 18" rim.

They last a while too, and even after a 3 or 400 miles, you can go spin it up a little on some hard pack and it'll sharpen the knobs up for you, and its almost like new again...

James Bond · 03-22-2012, 10:22 AM

I have been running the MT43 on my 530 for some time. The biggest drawback that I have found is that if you ride steep ground a really narly downhill is pretty scary. As soon as the rear locks up, and it will, it is like skating on ice.

WR_guy · 03-22-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by James Bond

I have been running the MT43 on my 530 for some time. The biggest drawback that I have found is that if you ride steep ground a really narly downhill is pretty scary. As soon as the rear locks up, and it will, it is like skating on ice.

How true...there is plenty of traction until you lose it and then there is none.

nanotech9 · 03-23-2012, 06:20 AM

get off the brakes and get on the gas! For sure the back tire won't lock up and slide...

although the downhill might get a lot scarrier! :)

03-18-2012, 08:12 PM	#1
MILLENNIUM FALCON ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Oddometer: 191	Trials tires on the road. I am thinking about running a trials tire on my enduro and wanted to know if anyone has experience on how they hold up with some road miles on them. This bike is not a commuter. It is my trail bike but some of the trails are 15-30 miles from my house. I am looking at the DOT shinko trials tire 110/80/19. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks MILLENNIUM FALCON screwed with this post 03-18-2012 at 08:17 PM

03-19-2012, 03:53 AM	#4
bass_on_tap Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Ro' di-lan Oddometer: 2,141	Buy a PIRELLI mt43 trials rear tire, it is one of the least expensive trials tires available. It is not as soft as the more expensive professional trial tires but that's a good thing. The stiffer side walls allow you to ride the road without it feeling like you have a flat tire. They hold up well, don't get hot at 80 mph and offer good traction in the woods. I say "good" because there are lots of different conditions out there. In the rock and roots, it's excellent. In the mud it's poor compared to a knobby. I have ridden it in the sand of south Jersey Pine Barron's and it works very good. In hard pack and loam, it's great. In the rocks and roots, it excels. In muddy corners, you need to use a different approach or you'll find yourself on the ground swapped in the opposite direction. I haven't gone back to a knobby yet. I tell people who ask me if I like the trials tire, it's a lot like a tennis shoe where a knobby is like a work boot. In the mud, the tennis shoe will suffer, in pretty much everything else, the tennis shoe will get you through faster and with less slip. All I can say is try it and see for yourself. If you don't like it, folks will buy it in a snap from you because even half worn, it's a great tire with excellent traction unlike a half worn knobby which is pretty much useless. Good luck. bass_on_tap screwed with this post 03-20-2012 at 07:01 AM

03-19-2012, 07:12 AM	#6
ManiacalChicken Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Sailing the Seas of Cheese Oddometer: 37	Pirelli MT43 is what alot of enduro guys are running and all i heard is good results. __________________ "I am what i am and i do what i do and i don't question it" Evel Knievel

03-19-2012, 08:32 AM	#8
Crazy_Dave Back'in it in Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Upstate NY Oddometer: 573	I will be running a MT43 on my 450EXC as soon as my second beadlock comes in. I dont think they come in a 19in tho. __________________ It’s easier to apologize then it is to ask permission. 01 R1-01 CBR929-08 WR250R-92 DR650 (24-7 365)-07 F650GS-05 200 EXC-03 450EXC

03-20-2012, 06:44 AM	#10
nuggets Commutator Joined: Jul 2010 Location: People's Republic of Virginiastan Oddometer: 1,175	I had good results from the Shinko SR241 tire. I mostly used them for commuting. I was pleased with the off road and road performance of the tire, and I got about 4000 miles out of the rear tire. Not a great tire for mud. __________________ 2007 xt225 2004 KX250 - Soil Sampler Nuggets' free bike tech clinic.

03-19-2012, 07:01 AM	#5
MILLENNIUM FALCON ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Oddometer: 191	Thanks for the info guys. I could run the Dunlop up front but I couldn't find a 19" rear. Shinko and bee rubber are the only ones I have found so far.

03-19-2012, 07:21 PM	#9
MILLENNIUM FALCON ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Oddometer: 191	Yeah I checked but sadly they dont come in 19's. I have heard some really good things about the shinko 255 and they have a 110/80/19 for around $100, so I might give em' a shot. Has anyone run them on their bikes?

03-20-2012, 02:50 PM	#12
nanotech9 Slidewayz Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Oddometer: 1,412	all kinds of stuff... I usually combine an MT43 with a Moto-Z Terrapactor intermediate up front (natural rubber, local dealer imports them). They hold up great. I regularly run 100+ on the '04 KTM 450 EXC with the MT43 on the rear at 8psi and RAIL the corners on the blacktop. VERY stable, even at those speeds. Can pretty much drag a knee on them. The Moto-Z holds up well on road too. Very aggressive in the dirt as well. The soft terrain is nearly the same, and works well in sand. the MT43 is such a great tire I would recommend you re-lace your hub to an 18" rim. They last a while too, and even after a 3 or 400 miles, you can go spin it up a little on some hard pack and it'll sharpen the knobs up for you, and its almost like new again... __________________ NANOFAB ::: Custom Kydex & Metal projects _________________________________________________ '05 BMW 1200GS '04 KTM 525 EXC '02 YAMAHA TTR 125 '99 KTM 50 ADV '86 KTM 250 2-smoker resto-project

03-22-2012, 10:22 AM	#13
James Bond Tight is best Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Eagle Point, OR Oddometer: 68	I have been running the MT43 on my 530 for some time. The biggest drawback that I have found is that if you ride steep ground a really narly downhill is pretty scary. As soon as the rear locks up, and it will, it is like skating on ice. __________________ 09 KTM 530 11 BMW 1200GS

03-23-2012, 06:20 AM	#15
nanotech9 Slidewayz Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Oddometer: 1,412	get off the brakes and get on the gas! For sure the back tire won't lock up and slide... although the downhill might get a lot scarrier! :) __________________ NANOFAB ::: Custom Kydex & Metal projects _________________________________________________ '05 BMW 1200GS '04 KTM 525 EXC '02 YAMAHA TTR 125 '99 KTM 50 ADV '86 KTM 250 2-smoker resto-project

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