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Old 03-28-2012, 09:17 AM   #316
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Soon

I hope to see the ico sensor bracket show in the mail by Friday and the TT magnet bolt by end of next week so I can shake this bad boy down. Like a Boss
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:35 AM   #317
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So I thought it's about time I put up or shut up

final build is over today, this is the set up I will be using at Evia rally, Serres Rally and at the remaining 5 daily
races of the Greek Rally Raid Cup... plus training etc etc

About the instruments, I have a minor sponsorship/nice discount from the cool people at Touratech Greece,
so I have mounted:

- two IMO100R50 odos (I prefer the larger displays on these, hate the digital smallish font in ICO's, plus I know
how to program them inside out, blindfolded )

- a TT roadbook . Yeah I know, they suck. But in all fairness I don't ride sand - which is what screws them up- and
after 1500kms of races since last August, mine is holding up pretty well. Periodic cleaning routine is pressurized air,
and a silicone based lubricant. So far so good, when it dies I will replace with an F2R).

- two ""Quintuple" TT button controls for IMOs & roadbook, I like the fact that I can set these up side by side, so no
fancy finger work required if the first goes kaboom. Plus I get a spare line for the roadbook control standing by in the cockpit.

Starting from the bottom, this is the the bracket which holds the 2 IMO sensor pick ups, the protection plate in front
of the pick ups was easily fabricated in a matter of minutes




A side view, you can see both sensors. I run a TrailTech magnetic bolt on the disc brake:




Spiral wrap around brake line and both sensor wires:






On to the "tower", a very loose term for the basic KTM aftermarket bracket (which has had extra supportive welds & material added where they usually crack, in between the four bottom bolts):






Front view, the backing plate was especially commissioned to a fabricator from the TT importer here, it snuggly holds 2 IMOs and the TT roadbook. I painted it a special antiglare "go-faster" rally black



And finally, two pics of the TT "Quintuple" controls side-by-side. Red buttons for IMO (plus, minus, reset in the middle),
Blue buttons for roadbook:






Unfortunately I had to skip the Vector, as I needed to add a second magnet to the wheel which would have caused the IMO pick ups to go haywire, but it's a small loss, as I can switch one IMO into speed mode on the liaisons which have the speed limits
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:52 AM   #318
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Sweet

Your Looking good to go now! I think we're down to 23 days before green flag. I got my ICO sensor holder today and will try and put it on the bike today.




Should I loctite and silicon the heck out of the nuts on the sensor?
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:27 PM   #319
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I'm not familiar with the ICO sensor bolts, but I believe
some Loctite should do the trick
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:29 AM   #320
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My current setup...
  • Chris V.'s modified Baja Designs race light bracket... From before he started making his uber-cool rally moto kit!
  • F2R roadbook.
  • OEM KTM tripmaster, remounted directly to the F2R for visibility.
  • Trailtech remote switch for tripmaster... Takes up less bar space and is easier to mount than the KTM switch.
  • Garmin Oregon GPS on RAM mount for directional indicator.

Wiring is pretty simple...
  • 14 gauge power/ground pair directly from battery, terminating behind headlight with SAE connector. Single fuse at battery.
  • Power pigtails to roadbook & tripmaster for backlight.
  • Switched pigtail to headlight/taillight.






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Old 04-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #321
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Is the TT button plug and play w/ the KTM ODO?

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Old 04-01-2012, 05:37 PM   #322
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Originally Posted by Yellow Pig View Post
Is the TT button plug and play w/ the KTM ODO?
No, unfortunately not. Actually, it was kind of funny...
  • I see the Trailtech switch has the exact same type of connector as the KTM tripmaster. A pretty unusual connector.
  • Both four conductor. Nice!
  • But wait, something doesn't look right. Doh! They are BOTH female! And my KTM just doesn't swing that way...
I did finally track down what type of connectors are used. JST JWPF series connectors. I mounted an older KTM odo that already had the wiring to the oem connectors messed up, so I just attached Molex four conductor connectors that I already had to both the odo and the switch.
JST JWPF information page link
Digikey order page link

Even without the plug-and-play connector, the trailtech is a good solution. It was less than $18 shipped, while the KTM tripmaster switch lists at $63!

You could also get the trailtech remote switch extension cable ($10), cut the female connectors of both the extension cable and the switch, and solder on the male pigtail. That way you wouldn't have to deal with crimping the tiny terminals on the JST connectors.

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Old 04-01-2012, 05:53 PM   #323
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Also, am I the only one that finds it weird that KTM uses fancy, completely waterproof connectors on the tripmaster, and basic non-weatherproof molex connectors on the starter button and headlight connections, and even simpler quick disconnects for the headlight switch and tail light connector??
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:22 PM   #324
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You don't happen to have the wiring diagram at ahnd by any chance?

What TT wires get connecetd to what KTM wires?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:54 PM   #325
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A few minutes with my Fluke and some testing with the KTM computer, and this is what I came up with. Works perfectly.
KTM Computer <-> Trailtech Switch

Yellow = Mode <-> Green = Middle Button
Blue = + <-> White = Top Button
Purple = - <-> Yellow = Bottom Button
Green = Common <-> Red
I think some older KTM computers have a brown wire instead of the purple, same function.

In addition to the four wire 'external switch' connector, the KTM computer has a two wire connector (magnet pickup, white and gray wires) and a three wire connector for backlight/external power. The computer works perfectly and retains all functions without the external power being connected, but you won't get the nice orange backlight.

You can wire the power feed to the computer always hot. The backlight turns on as soon as the computer activates (front wheel rotation or hit any of the buttons), and turns off when the computer times out after sixty seconds of no activity.
Power Connector Colors:
Red = 12V
Brown = Ground
Black = Cripple (street legal mode)
Do not connect the black wire to ground! If you do, it puts the computer into 'street legal' mode and locks out some of the computer enduro functions. Also won't allow you to set wheel size. Just clip it and forget that it is even there.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:13 AM   #326
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Awsome!

Thanks

Parts are on the way.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:24 PM   #327
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:19 AM   #328
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KTM TT Roadbook and bracket with a few bits aluminium angle to raise and move the assembly forward and hold the fairing.
Single IMO 100R50 Trip and original speedo.



Very basic layout. TT 5 button remote and KTM Tripmaster.
Made a simple guide for brake/Trip/Speedo cables so they don't snag on anything.
Hacked-out the switch block so it would fit on taper part of bars.



A lot gear hanging off the triple clamps, but doesn't feel too heavy.
Dodgy looking wiring, but it works and hasn't failed yet.
Ran fused cable from battery to switch,
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:12 AM   #329
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I am finally starting to get the hang of fiberglass fabrication. 3rd revision of my faring actually looks presentable.



Taking the bike out for a good shakedown today. Less than 3 weeks to the Mexican 1000!
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:58 AM   #330
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Electrical Connectors

I'm trying to find a good source for waterproof electrical connectors. I saw Hogwild's post about they screw type connectors, but I'm looking for the waterproof push type. I know there are supply houses, but I don't know the terms and was hoping someone had done the research already. Two questions:

1) Does anyone know where I can source the power plugs on the F2R? I found a Chinese importer that has them, but I need to buy them in QTYs of 500! The same connector that is pictured on RMS site on the F2R



2) I'd like to buy a kit of parts for 2, 3 and 4 pin connectors like these listed on Amazon. I'm sure there is a supplier that has them in small qty cheaper than buying them one at a time on Amazon or some auto supply shop. Where do people buy these? I'd like about 30 connectors or so.

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