Joining links and 525 chains....

[outback jack]

A trap for young players, is to buy a cheap or lightweight chain breaker. If you see the words " use an angle grinder first on chain pins" don't buy it, unless your packing your battery powered angle grinder in your kit. Spend the extra and get something heavy duty like a Motion Pro Jumbo that won't break when you wind it up on the side of the road.

[Big Willy]

I lost several clips off my joining link on the DR's chain a few years back on the Strezlecki but the link never came apart...

So I reckon as long as the outer plate of the link is a ficking tight fit, then clip type links are ok imo.

The links from yesteryear that I remember, you could put that outer plate with your dick they were so loose.

[Big Willy]

Originally Posted by outback jack

A trap for young players, is to buy a cheap or lightweight chain breaker. If you see the words " use an angle grinder first on chain pins" don't buy it, unless your packing your battery powered angle grinder in your kit. Spend the extra and get something heavy duty like a Motion Pro Jumbo that won't break when you wind it up on the side of the road.

Hey Jack, sounds like good advice for out on the trail
I reckon if you're at home though you should still use the angle grinder to get rid of the extra diameter of the riveted end before you push it through if you know what I mean.
If it makes a poofteenth of a difference, I don't know... but it makes me feel better not having to force it through

[ktmgeoff]

Originally Posted by Big Willy

The links from yesteryear that I remember, you could put that outer plate with your dick they were so loose.

Yesteryear is the operative word here, you were young and virile then........

[Outbackbiker]

Originally Posted by DR-DRZ

Yeah 20000 sounds unreliable.
It's been my experience that most clip type joiners fail when the bike goes backwards and knocks the clip off on the chain guard.
I actually had one come off taking the bike off the trailer.
Lesson here is, don't go backwards

If the clip is catching & coming off you're not doing it right ,
Once you have fitted the circlip you should ALWAYS lever the side plate back out hard against the clip which jams it in place. If you don't it will fall off! & you will be walking..

[outback jack]

Originally Posted by Big Willy

Hey Jack, sounds like good advice for out on the trail
I reckon if you're at home though you should still use the angle grinder to get rid of the extra diameter of the riveted end before you push it through if you know what I mean.
If it makes a poofteenth of a difference, I don't know... but it makes me feel better not having to force it through

Agree, if you have access to a grinder use it first, but an el'cheapo will let you down one day. And as OBB said if your clips are coming undone your not doing it right, some fellars use a dob of silicone for piece of mind.

[mith_03]

Originally Posted by glitch_oz

Sadly out of business.

http://terra-x.com.au/

These work really well and they did a run of them earlier in the year for another forum.

You could contact them to see if they have any left over.

The clips work fine on the 525, I used to smear some black silicon over the clip for peace of mind.

[DR-DRZ]

Originally Posted by Outbackbiker

If the clip is catching & coming off you're not doing it right ,
Once you have fitted the circlip you should ALWAYS lever the side plate back out hard against the clip which jams it in place. If you don't it will fall off! & you will be walking..

So your saying it has no relevance as to which direction the clip is facing along as it is fitted correctly?

[JohnG.]

I recently got to mine with a ballpean hammer as the rivet link was working loose...



She arnt going nowhere now

[Ranger Rob]

Originally Posted by DR-DRZ

So your saying it has no relevance as to which direction the clip is facing along as it is fitted correctly?

Yeah, the "closed end" of the clip should be facing the direction of travel.

I also completely agree with the use of some silicone or sikaflex under the clip as you fit it, as well as levering the chain plate back out against the clip.

I also have used the "Ballards" chain breakers "small ones, just bigger than a matchbox" which are far from being toys and will easily push a pin through any chain without grinding.
We have broken plenty of the cheaper breakers and even stuffed plenty of dearer breakers in the group that i ride with.

Biggest problem is the small "Ballards breakeris a tight squeeze on a 525 or wider chain, but absolutely perfect in a bumbag for WRs and KTM excs.

[gateman]

Bought a circlip joiner $3.60 when I got a new 525. Kept the rivot joiner any way.

was passing another bike shop different town and thought I'll just grab another. $13.00...go figure that out.

[Outbackbiker]

Originally Posted by DR-DRZ

So your saying it has no relevance as to which direction the clip is facing along as it is fitted correctly?

No, did not mention the circlip direction , nor did i suggest it should be fitted any way but the correct direction!
Feel free to fit it back to front if you wish! will look forward to the ride report!

[JohnG.]

Originally Posted by Ranger Rob

Yeah, the "closed end" of the clip should be facing the direction of travel.

I also completely agree with the use of some silicone or sikaflex under the clip as you fit it, as well as levering the chain plate back out against the clip.

I also have used the "Ballards" chain breakers "small ones, just bigger than a matchbox" which are far from being toys and will easily push a pin through any chain without grinding.
We have broken plenty of the cheaper breakers and even stuffed plenty of dearer breakers in the group that i ride with.

Biggest problem is the small "Ballards breakeris a tight squeeze on a 525 or wider chain, but absolutely perfect in a bumbag for WRs and KTM excs.

made mine 'bigger' with the angle grinder

[DR-DRZ]

Originally Posted by Outbackbiker

No, did not mention the circlip direction , nor did i suggest it should be fitted any way but the correct direction!

No you suggested than when fitted correctly the direction the bike traveled was irrelevant.

[Outbackbiker]

Originally Posted by DR-DRZ

No you suggested than when fitted correctly the direction the bike traveled was irrelevant.

Can't help you there mate, my scoot doesn't have reverse