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Old 05-06-2012, 01:37 PM   #13096
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So I have a 250r for the really tight stuff, and the 650r for trips and all that stuff. Is there room for a 450r in there also, or is it to similar to the 650 to get?

Anyone own, or owned both or all three at the same time?
Do you mean the XR400R? I have heard it feels close to the 650R in handling/weight from some people, but to others every pound matters and the 650R has some pounds on it. Personally wouldn't bother with the CRF450R unless you do MX and like doing engine work.

I think your setup is pretty balanced.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:48 PM   #13097
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Yea, sorry, the XR400, not 450.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:33 PM   #13098
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Yea, sorry, the XR400, not 450.
I have a XR400R also, my buddy has an XR250R, the 250R makes a decent (but dated) ST machine, it's light, has a 6sp and is a simple aircooled mount. He rides some serious knarl on it, it's a cheap ST bike that will do what you need it to but you won't win any HP contests with it. The 400R is a good machine, reliable, does everything ok also but it's also very dated compared to whats out there now, it does everything decently and better then most if not all of the Jap enduros that are out there now but the newer (off road only) bikes are going to perform noticably better. Similar to the the niche you fine the XR250R in. I think the 650R has retained it's appeal much longer because there's not allot of off-road focus from the factories in the 650cc range so there's only 1 decent alternative to the XRs HP and off-road ability and it's almost $11K

The smaller XR400 is not that way, it's in amoungst some very stiff competition from the orange camp. I use it as my loaner bike for buddies that come out to visit, not knocking the XR400, it's been a great machine that's never let me down but it'd never be my primary (smaller) bike, it's a little too heavy and underpowered for my tastes. I'd choose something different for that size and it'd probably be orange just because I think the japs have lost their focus or don't really care about the serious DS non-mx market, their's is probably a sales driven decision.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:55 PM   #13099
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Capt. Egregious, I have a XPC suede seat and I still am VERY HAPPY with it. The seat has gotten even more comfortable with time. Below is a link to my review of the seat a short time after I received it. 200 plus mile days are comfortable on the seat and I figure roughly I have 6000 miles on the seat. IMHO it was money well spent...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=5442
Great looking seat and XRR. I think I will take Guts seat off the list and put XPC at the top. Looking at the Renazco also. Thank you for the info. What foam did you go with? Is suede the strongest/toughest?
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:17 PM   #13100
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Great looking seat and XRR. I think I will take Guts seat off the list and put XPC at the top. Looking at the Renazco also. Thank you for the info. What foam did you go with? Is suede the strongest/toughest?
I'm surprised no one brought up the Seat Concepts foam/cover kit. Hard to beat for $160 - but you do have to use your existing pan and staple it together. (or pay SC - or an upholstery shop to do it for you). Very good quality materials, and they can tailor the foam density to your weight if you're near the ends of the 160-250 lb range.

http://seatconcepts.com/products#ecw...roduct=7268061
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:50 PM   #13101
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I like the price of the Seat Concepts kit better. Anyone have alot of seat time on the SC product?

Edit: just did search alil here on ADV and found alot of good reviews for the Seat Concepts. Saving abit of cash on the seat will allow the extra funds re-rewind my stator again(18 ga this time).

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:12 PM   #13102
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[QUOTE=Capt. Egregious;18627603]I like the price of the Seat Concepts kit better. Anyone have alot of seat time on the SC product?

I've got about 3000 miles on mine and i love it.It is holding up very well(looks like new) Stapled it myself .
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:13 PM   #13103
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Don't forget the $10 off for being a ADV member on the Seat Concepts site!
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:18 PM   #13104
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I like the price of the Seat Concepts kit better. Anyone have alot of seat time on the SC product?

Edit: just did search alil here on ADV and found alot of good reviews for the Seat Concepts. Saving abit of cash on the seat will allow the extra funds re-rewind my stator again(18 ga this time).
My experience is with a DR350, and it's great. First long ride I took it on, I realized after an hour or so of highway that I hadn't even thought about the seat. Next time I thought about it was about a half hour before I got home from that 300mile+ day.
Here's an XR guy:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=350


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=7867

Thread 'o plenty for all seat concepts:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621311
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:35 PM   #13105
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I have a XR400R also, my buddy has an XR250R, the 250R makes a decent (but dated) ST machine, it's light, has a 6sp and is a simple aircooled mount. He rides some serious knarl on it, it's a cheap ST bike that will do what you need it to but you won't win any HP contests with it. The 400R is a good machine, reliable, does everything ok also but it's also very dated compared to whats out there now, it does everything decently and better then most if not all of the Jap enduros that are out there now but the newer (off road only) bikes are going to perform noticably better. Similar to the the niche you fine the XR250R in. I think the 650R has retained it's appeal much longer because there's not allot of off-road focus from the factories in the 650cc range so there's only 1 decent alternative to the XRs HP and off-road ability and it's almost $11K

The smaller XR400 is not that way, it's in amoungst some very stiff competition from the orange camp.
Same opinion here. I rode a '89 250r the other day down on the res. I liked it even with bald tires and no fork fluid. That thing had barely seen maintenance and could still carry a 250lb indian across serious terrain.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:57 PM   #13106
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I let my 13 year old ride my pig today. He likes the orange bike better.

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:20 PM   #13107
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Thanks for the input on seat options. Just placed my order with Seat Concepts. $15 ADV discount
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:15 PM   #13108
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A buddy of mine is looking for a plated new smallish Honda offroad, which rules out the 230 (mind, no L here). But very recently Honda launched the XR250 Tornado here, liquid cooled, so we had a look. Whatever comes in sells in days, we have not seen one yet, and no idea if it's meek or merry.
Talking to the sales guy he mentioned the brandnew new plated CRF250L is due here very soon. So, he suggested my friend to hold on and see, as the Tornado is more of a commuter whilst the CRF-L is a proper enduro with all lights.

This for those who are looking for a plated smaller Honda-bike, for kids, wives or selfish single track
But, if Honda does this to the 250 then they also probably will to the 450, however I hunch this will take some time still.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:50 AM   #13109
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A buddy of mine is looking for a plated new smallish Honda offroad, which rules out the 230 (mind, no L here). But very recently Honda launched the XR250 Tornado here, liquid cooled, so we had a look. Whatever comes in sells in days, we have not seen one yet, and no idea if it's meek or merry.
Talking to the sales guy he mentioned the brandnew new plated CRF250L is due here very soon. So, he suggested my friend to hold on and see, as the Tornado is more of a commuter whilst the CRF-L is a proper enduro with all lights.

This for those who are looking for a plated smaller Honda-bike, for kids, wives or selfish single track
But, if Honda does this to the 250 then they also probably will to the 450, however I hunch this will take some time still.
And maybe a CRF650L if we're really lucky. Fat chance.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:06 AM   #13110
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My experience is with a DR350, and it's great. First long ride I took it on, I realized after an hour or so of highway that I hadn't even thought about the seat. Next time I thought about it was about a half hour before I got home from that 300mile+ day.
Here's an XR guy:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=350


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=7867

Thread 'o plenty for all seat concepts:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621311
Thats my bike ...i have had the seat a long time .....just got back from a 2,000km ride over 4 days .....slabbed it back home for 500 kms and my ass is sweet .. no problems bang for buck best around ....service second to none
i got the gripper top and the carbon sides .. i recon gripper sides and carbon top would be better ...i use the seat to grip my thighs on when up on the pegs and the gripper would be better ....as from the top i think the gripper is to much ad when i move on the seat ,,, only me moves my pants stay there

...super happY with the seat form Bundy at S/C
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