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Old 05-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #1
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Is my starter failing?

04 R1150GS.

When it's hot, as in I'm at a long traffic light or draw bridge opening and I go to restart it the starter barely works. It'll cycle very slowly.

Is that symptomatic of a failing starter motor?

Thanks.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:17 PM   #2
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:48 PM   #3
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Battery?
It's not an issue when the motor is cold.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:55 PM   #4
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Yep, sounds like the starter.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:36 AM   #5
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Mine always soudns a little "tired" on a hot start. No idea why. It's just enough to make me think, "Wtf?" then it fires up and all is well.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:08 PM   #6
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mine always soudns a little "tired" on a hot start. No idea why. It's just enough to make me think, "wtf?" then it fires up and all is well.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:34 PM   #7
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Had similar problems with my '01 two years ago. Was going to rebuild it but didn't have the time. A new Valeo starter can be had for less than $200 off eBay.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:03 PM   #8
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Mine fried at work when trying to start, it sounded like it was slow to turn things. I looked down and noticed the wisp of smoke trailing out from under the plastic cover.

I guessed at that point I'd let the smoke out.

The tow truck driver wanted to pull start me with the truck. By the look of him I was certain that movie of that would have hit a million on YouTube.
I opted for the platform tow ride home. Slick inclined oil streaked bed. Overloaded top heavy Adventure bike... What could go wrong.
I didn't drop it, but it was close a couple of times.

And FWIW, don't buy the OEM starter. That thing is not KLR-priced.

If I had known about the Valero I'd have bought it.



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04 R1150GS.

When it's hot, as in I'm at a long traffic light or draw bridge opening and I go to restart it the starter barely works. It'll cycle very slowly.

Is that symptomatic of a failing starter motor?

Thanks.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:52 PM   #9
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They are relatively straightforward to remove, dismantle, clean and lube and of course a good close look inside, especially the magnets. They always operate well after this task.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:51 AM   #10
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On mine the field magnets unglued and locked the armature, this let the smoke out.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:54 AM   #11
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What do you folks use to reattach the magnets?
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:02 AM   #12
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use epoxy glue to reattach, or order he new housing for $40 that has updated ( glued and retainer clips) magnets.

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/pro...6ra-magccw.htm
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:07 AM   #13
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I have had very good luck thinning regular silicone seal with toluene into a thick paint, and reattach the magnet with it. But if any chipping you will lose torque, so the updated housing is best.

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:18 PM   #14
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Replaced my valeo starter after the magnets loosened and made the starter useless on my '98 GS. Replaced with a starter from these nice folks, a bit pricier than the frog starter, they use nippondenso components.

http://www.motoelekt.com/starter.htm

BTW, if you have lights, fuel pump and can push start the bike, you're probably shunting a lot of current through an 'iffy' starter which tells you it's probably not a battery issue. My .02. Let us know what you find, yellow, right?

Also, here's an inspection procedure: http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

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Old 05-23-2012, 06:37 PM   #15
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Thank you kind people, I will try taking it off and cleaning it.


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