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Old 05-03-2012, 04:48 PM   #1
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Rumbux Crash Bars for Yamaha Super Tenere (XT1200Z)

I finally got things lined up and am getting ready to place another order for Rumbux Products. My company name is Eval Innovations, Inc.
The Rumbux web site is HERE for gallery pics. I don't have a web site yet.

I will take orders, accept payment via Visa/MC/Discover/Amex and then place the build order. This means approximately 3 weeks from order to the bars arriving on your doorstep via UPS/FedX. Shipping is included in the prices, so that's all you pay. No surprises. Prices are for the lower 48 states, if you're in Alasaka or Canada, PM me with your zip/postal code and I'll figure out shipping costs and let you know if there will be an additional cost. Your CC will be charged at the time of your order.

Utah Residents - I have to add the 8.5% State Sales tax. :(

Prices, (All Shipping included!):

Full Rumbux Crashbar set with integrated skid plate - $775.00 (prices updated to reflect 2013 pricing.)
(Light brackets shown are not included)


These crash bars allow full removal of both side panels w/o removing the upper bars. The skid plate comes off with 6 bolts and they are easy to access. It is necessary to remove the skid plate for oil changes.
THIS PRODUCT IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE WITH A FENDER EXTENDER!


Lower only w/integrated Skid Plate - $475.00


This option still allows you to add the upper bars at a later date. You get the benefits of lower protection similar to other crash bars, but also the integrated skid plate that is bolted only to the crash bar frame, NOT THE ENGINE OR OIL SUMP.
THIS PRODUCT IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE WITH A FENDER EXTENDER!

Upper add on Crash Bars for Yamaha crash bars - $375.00
(Pics used with permission from Deon @ Rumbux ZA)




This replaces the Yamaha upper hoop with the heavier Rumbux upper hoop and adds upper side protection. The upper hoop ties in at the top with a flat bar brace and bolts to the Yamaha bars at the normal spots, PLUS an additional bolt point on each side at the factory fall over bracket.

Rumbux 1"(25mm), Light brackets - $40 (plus shipping if ordered alone)
(Pic 16 in the Gallery link above shows a great shot of the three pieces)

These are a three piece unit that is designed for the Yamaha accessory lights, but the yoke can be left off and most any other light can be mounted with it, either a single bolt design or spanning two brackets. These come as a pair, normally to mount two lights.

If you want in on this order, call me at 435-817-0809 and have some plastic ready. :) I aim to continue to place a new order each month as demand is met. If things take off, I'll start stocking the bars and other items, but right now I'm on a shoe string budget, so what you will get is updates and as fast a turn around time as I can give on re-packaging and shipping the bars out once they arrive in the States.

Got questions? Feel free to PM me, call me or post here and I'll do my best to answer them. Phone calls from 8 am to 9pm MDT Please. If I don't answer, please leave a voice message and I'll get back to you ASAP.

Thanks,

Eric V (Dirty Bike)

Torque spec info:

The 8mm oem drop guard bolts are 8.7 ft/lbs.

The 10mm rear side stand bolt is 46 ft/lbs. (rear throttle side mount)

The 8mm rear exhaust bracket bolt is 14 ft/lbs, (rear clutch side mount).

The center long bolt that holds the dash on, where the flat bar goes
is 11 ft/lbs

The two bolts between the upper and lower Rumbux are nylocks, so just
get them tight, no need to go overboard there. Same for the small 6mm
bolts and nuts on the front end of the flat bar.

I'd recommend using blue (242) loctite or equivalent on the bolts.
(not on the nylock ones!!)

Tip: When you're putting the lower bar on, leave the rear bolt out on
the oem tip over guards, as you'll just be pulling that out again to
mount the upper bars.

Other than the one bolt at 46 ft/lbs, they torque values are mostly to
prevent you from over tightening things. That should tell you that
they are not critical. If your torque wrench doesn't go down that
far, don't sweat it, just snug them up, then give a small extra pull,
like 1/8 of a turn or less and you'll be fine.

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5/12/2013

This is the new warning page that will go out with every 2-part and 3-part Rumbux kit I sell. It's intended to make riders aware of the dangers, not scare them off the product. But I'm sure I'll lose a few customers because of it. At some point, every bike will drag hard parts, but I want people to understand the potential risks. Most Super Ten riders probably will never scrape pegs, but there certainly is a contingent that does.

*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****


Adding aftermarket accessories to your motorcycle can alter the ground clearance. You may need to adjust your riding style to avoid contact with the ground during aggressive cornering or on uneven ground.

*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****

When properly installed, this Rumbux Crash Bar will cause your Super Tenere to be wider and lower than prior to it's installation. Because of this, it is possible to contact the ground just after the left side footpeg feeler will scrape during high lean angle turns and before the center stand contacts on the right side. This can result in levering the rear wheel off the ground, and directly or indirectly cause a crash resulting in motorcycle damage, injury or death!

*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****

By installing this product you are accepting responsibility for your own actions!

EVal Innovations can not control how you ride. Please use caution until you understand if and how the installation of your new Rumbux crash bar system impacts your riding style.

EVal Innovations Inc. is not liable for injuries or damages resulting from crashes where the crash bars may have contacted the ground during riding. By installing Rumbux Adventure Products on your motorcycle, you implicitly accept these terms, and responsibility for your actions of choosing to install this product and choosing to ride in a manner which could cause motorcycle damage, injury or death.

*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****!Warning!*****

Motorcycling is an inherently dangerous activity. Please ride aware, ride safe and ride often.

Thank you for your purchase!
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The actual page has the "warning!" in red, but yellow shows up better here.

Dirty bike screwed with this post 05-12-2013 at 05:03 PM Reason: New warning added
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:34 PM   #2
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Eric,


A few questions on the crashbar if you dont mind:
  • is this the same one that being sold at the supertenere website
  • how much is the weight of lower part
  • how much is the weight of the upper part
  • where are the attachement points for the lower bash plate (engine or frame)
  • where is the attachement for the upper under the triple clamp
  • do you have to take the lower guard to change oil filter
  • is mild steel tubiong used for the guard
  • what are the pannier racks that are pictured in the website all about
  • have the SS brake lines been lenghtened to be able to accept a higher bar riser
Thanks for taking the time and effort in promoting this product -
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:34 PM   #3
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Eric,


A few questions on the crashbar if you dont mind:
  • is this the same one that being sold at the supertenere website
  • how much is the weight of lower part
  • how much is the weight of the upper part
  • where are the attachement points for the lower bash plate (engine or frame)
  • where is the attachement for the upper under the triple clamp
  • do you have to take the lower guard to change oil filter
  • is mild steel tubiong used for the guard
  • what are the pannier racks that are pictured in the website all about
  • have the SS brake lines been lenghtened to be able to accept a higher bar riser
Thanks for taking the time and effort in promoting this product -
Frank
Questions are good.

Yes, this is the same as being sold on the Super Tenere Forum, both posts by me. I am Eric V over there.

Total weight of the bars is ~24 lbs with all hardware.
Upper bar is 10 lbs.
Lower bar with skid plate and hardware is 13.5 Lbs.

Attachment points for the lower bash plate are to the lower crash bar only, which is mounted to the frame only. You can opt to mount with, or w/o the factory "skid plate". The lower bars attach at the front bolt of the factory tip over bar on each side, then the large bolt just forward of the center stand on each side. The tip over guard is retained. In part because the clutch side one is a lower radiator mount.

The attachment to the upper hoop, at center, is a flat bar that bolts to the bottom of the long bolt that goes thru the rear of the center gauge pod mounting unit. At the hoop, it bolts in with two smaller bolts.

You do not have to take the lower guard, (bars), off to change the oil, but you do have to take the skid plate off to change the oil. This is 6 bolts, easily accessible.

Originally there were holes to access the drain plugs, but the SA riders found that small sticks and debris would enter via those holes and build up or potentially do damage, so the holes were eliminated. It only takes a few minutes to remove the skid plate and I found it not to add any significant time to a oil/filter change. It's simply another step, which allows me to give things a good look over while doing that service.

Yes, the tubing is 25x2mm mild steel tubing, bash plate is 3mm aluminum, all finished in ferro grain black powder coating.

The pannier brackets shown on the Rumbux web site are for the R1200GS and XT660 Tenere, not the XT1200 Super Tenere. These are not for hard panniers, but intended for those running soft panniers to keep the panniers off the exhaust and from flopping into the rear wheel. Because the Super Tenere's stock hand grab bars can be reversed and installed in the down position to perform this function, no need was seen to fabricate these for the Super Ten.

The brake line kit is only for the lower lines from under the triple tree to the calipers to facilitate fender raise/removal, or simply removal of the cross over line to avoid the unpleasant potential if the fender is broken, as was seen on a F800GS on their forum, where a rock broke the fender, then the brake line cross over caught the tire and resulted in a very unpleasant crash at speed. This should not be confused with an upper brake line kit to allow for higher risers. Different animal altogether. I do not have any intentions to offer the upper kit, since others already offer it now. (Ride On ADV).

I have worked on bringing in the Rumbux product because it fills a niche that is not represented in the US market. I personally wanted a crash bar/skid plate that did NOT mount to the engine or oil sump. The cast oil sump has been shown to not be a good place to mount things to. In the event of a hard hit, it can fracture, resulting in Bad Things™. I brought the first 5 sets in on a group buy, for myself and a few forward thinkers that were willing to take a chance. The quality of the bars is first rate. The welds are excellent, the fitment is perfect and I am so pleased with the product that I want to make it available to my S10 brethren. I hope to do so at a price that is reasonable, but still allows me a small profit margin. Business, eh? If things go well, I will get to the point were I can stock bars, and avoid the delay of having to order them, wait for them to be fabricated, shipped, go thru customs and then be re-packaged and shipped to customers. Right now, that is too high risk for my taste. Down the road, we will see. It's been a big learning curve so far to become an importer of motorcycle parts from South Africa. Not exactly next door! Lots of variables in exchange rates, etc. and I'm too small to get a good shipping rate, but I believe it can still represent a good value for American buyers.

Thanks for asking questions. From good questions, we all learn.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:38 PM   #4
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:37 AM   #5
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that is a sweet setup you have!
Thanks eakins. Small world. The wife and I ran into Court & friends in Mexican Hat a couple weekends ago. He's got that GS looking schweet too.
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I am not a huge fan of the upper hoop, personally.

How much protection (in a tip over) will the lower skid plate portion provide? Would you say it is similar in protection to most other guard offerings?

Any "tipped-over" pics to show what touches first?


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I am not a huge fan of the upper hoop, personally.

How much protection (in a tip over) will the lower skid plate portion provide? Would you say it is similar in protection to most other guard offerings?

Any "tipped-over" pics to show what touches first?
ac
I think the lower side bars offer protection that is equal to some crash bars out there, certainly better than the stock tip over guards. I don't think the lower alone is equal to some of the other offerings when you are riding w/o bags and in rocky terrain where uneven ground or an errant bolder next to the trail could be an upper side impact issue. One of the reasons I like the full set is that it not only guards against lower side impacts, but fully protects the radiator/fan in upper impacts too.

Tipped over pics? I've nev... well, ok, I have dirt napped the S10 several times, but it was prior to the Rumbux crash bars going on, so I took the bike out to the front patio and 'laid her down' so the inmates could have a look. Several shots just taken. First with bags on, which clearly has an impact on how far over the bike will go. With the bags on, the lower bar doesn't even touch ground on flat surface. However, with the bags off, it does. I hope the following pics answer your questions, but feel free to ask for a specific pic and I'll do my best.



Now with bags off. Didn't think to get a good low angle shot with the bags on since the bike was held up higher by the bags. Certainly does illustrate that the shift lever is at risk. Both upper and lower bars kiss the pavement at about the same point on flat surface.








And a shot of the upper hoop bar that runs from the hoop to the center bolt that holds the gauge pod bracket/sub unit in place.
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Some interesting questions via PM by inmates. There is some interest in using the Rumbux lower bars/skid plate with other companies upper bars. This has not been done or test fit at this point.

What I see is that in most cases this will be possible. The lower Rumbux mounts at the same front bolt as most other upper crash bars and has a flat tab that should fit under or over the other bar's mounting bracket or tab, depending on design. It may require a little muscle or spreading of one product or another, but should not cause any issues.

For those that don't care for the upper hoop design, this is an alternative option that upgrades the skid plate to a non-engine mounted design w/o having to replace your existing upper bars.

I'd love to test fit this concept if anyone happens to be near me or wants to come my way and has another brand of crash bar already mounted. I'll buy/cook lunch for any takers.
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Funny, I was just going to ask you that question!

I have the Givi bars already, and I just can't get over the "massive" nature of the light hoops, but I LOVE that skid plate design.

That is why I was asking about ground clearance and how much protection just the bottom piece would provide in a tip over.

Your pictures are AWESOME, and frankly, were needed to sell this product! Thank you!

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Funny, I was just going to ask you that question!

I have the Givi bars already, and I just can't get over the "massive" nature of the light hoops, but I LOVE that skid plate design.

That is why I was asking about ground clearance and how much protection just the bottom piece would provide in a tip over.

Your pictures are AWESOME, and frankly, were needed to sell this product! Thank you!

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That's why I love questions! It brings up things that help everyone and if one person is asking, others are going to think about it too.

If enough interest is there, I can order the lower units w/o the forward tabs used to mount the upper bars. This is not a huge deal to have deleted. Cost should be the same.

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Too much going on recently. I received enough orders to place an order with Rumbux. The wire transfer went last Thursday and the bars are in the process of being built now. Hopefully they will ship from South Africa early next week or possibly at the end of this week, depending on their other production work.

At this point the next order is essentially 4-5 weeks out on delivery. For those that want to order Rumbux items and missed this order, please keep that in mind, but the sooner I get the minimum number of items on order, the sooner I can place the build order with Rumbux. They build everything to order, so it's not just a matter of pulling things off the shelf and shipping them. That does slow the process down.

To those that ordered this time, thank you for your purchase and patience!!

More news when I have it to share.
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do they make a luggage rack for the super tenere?
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do they make a luggage rack for the super tenere?
Not at this time.
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For those waiting on the current order, the units are built and off to powder coat. Shipment from SA should occur early next week!
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