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Old 06-19-2012, 03:46 PM   #526
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Paul, maybe you can make an iPad mount? Using the ipad as a GPS and a road book maker would be really cool.
As long as those balls are of a size that are RAM compatible.. you can mount whatever you want - RAM already makes an Ipad holder.



I have ram holders for all kinds of devices including my iphone, spot and 2 different GPSs. They would all work with the ball mounts Paul posted



my 950's cockpit with 3 ram balls:


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Old 06-19-2012, 04:01 PM   #527
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Do you think it's got the holding power? I can see that thing getting flicked off the bars and turned into iTrash
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:04 PM   #528
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I dunno.. I think pfb owns one.. I'll ask him.

You'd definitely want to use the shortest arm... I wonder if it has facilities to actually dual ball mount it?

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Old 06-19-2012, 05:19 PM   #529
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I dunno.. I think pfb owns one.. I'll ask him.

You'd definitely want to use the shortest arm... I wonder if it has facilities to actually dual ball mount it?

Ahh, two balls are better than one for sure!
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:30 PM   #530
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Do you think it's got the holding power? I can see that thing getting flicked off the bars and turned into iTrash
I have one in my truck, while I don't see it falling out, it doesn't keep the iPad from vibrating around in the holder. It also wouldn't do much to protect it from brush.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:39 PM   #531
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I have one in my truck, while I don't see it falling out, it doesn't keep the iPad from vibrating around in the holder. It also wouldn't do much to protect it from brush.
I figured, I flicked my GPS out of the RAM mount many times until I got smart and zip tied it. This might be a solution.....

http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/cases/ipad-2/

I have the case for my phone and it works good.
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"Well duhhhhh"....

The side frames already have 6 holes each for road book mounting.
Insert ram ball(s) into the holes of your choice... done!

I'll post pics tomorrow

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Old 06-19-2012, 06:27 PM   #533
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"Well duhhhhh"....

The side frames already have 6 holes each for road book mounting.
Insert ram ball(s) into the holes of your choice... done!

I'll post pics tomorrow

RAM NERD Good work, look forward to the pics!
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:02 PM   #534
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Cool, what software do you use? I've got a bunch of dual sport routes that I want to make road books for and I'm in the market for a device.
Dual Sport Maps and for the roll charts, the cryptically named "RollChart".

I wish the RollChart guy was still developing the software, some good ideas there.

I've also suggested to CraftyCoder (DSM) he should incorporate something like it into DSM.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:41 PM   #535
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I dunno.. I think pfb owns one.. I'll ask him.

You'd definitely want to use the shortest arm... I wonder if it has facilities to actually dual ball mount it?
Yup. An iPad lives in a Ram mount in my truck 95% of the time, and have also mounted it up to my 950 Adventure for S & G's... The mount holds pretty securely, but as mentioned before, even my Garmin Oregon can pop out of it's Ram mount on a minor crash, so I expect the iPad could do the same. A small zip tie fixes the Oregon mount, I bet a big zip tie would fix the iPad mount.

You want to use C size Ram hardware (1.5"), not the standard B size (1"). The iPad cradle does have two locations to mount balls on the back, but one larger ball is all you need. That isn't going to be the weak point. I've mounted up an entire roadbook/odo setup with a single C size ball, much heavier than an iPad, and it held firm on a 100+ mile off-road roadbook ride.

Here's a picture of the C size hardware mounted up in my truck. This is a multi-arm setup, with a small arm, a medium arm, and a double ball connector so that I can position it perfectly. Very stable, no issues at all off road in the truck. On a bike, using a single arm would likely be preferable. You can also see the four holes in the mounting plate for the second ball location if you look carefully.



And here are a few embarrassingly crappy photo's of it mounted on my Adventure. Sorry, they are the only ones I have! The iPad is definitely in the wrong position, needs to be much farther forward (like you would place a roadbook). I took it down some dirt roads and even some of the really mellow stuff at IMI without issue, but certainly needs a bit of work to be 'roadbook rally ready".

As far as cost, you can buy a 3G iPad for $530 bucks new from Apple. That's less than the price of a Garmin Montana (which is an utter piece of crap IMHO). And buy the AppleCare+ package ($99), and you get two years warranty including accidental damage replacement coverage. Run over it with your truck, toss it off a building, crash it on your moto, and get up to two replacements in that two year period for a flat $49 replacement fee. ANY damage, as long as you can gather up the parts, you get a new iPad.


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How many of the parts? Like humpty dumpty all the parts ?
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:34 AM   #537
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Already had the 450 set up with an F2R roadbook. To get an idea how it might look, slapped on the iPad....

I'm not saying this is a great solution, just food for thought. I think it definitely has potential as a roadbook creation tool, as the $10 iPad roadbook app looks pretty cool after playing with it a bit.

Basic roadbook setup with F2R


iPad mounted in same approximate postion


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Dual Sport Maps and for the roll charts, the cryptically named "RollChart".

I wish the RollChart guy was still developing the software, some good ideas there.
The RollChart guy (Blrfl) is a member here!
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:13 AM   #539
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ipad rally navigation

Nate and I did the Mexican 1000 with no roadbook or GPS. We used an app on his iPhone.

We are trying to see if the folks who made the app would be willing to let us test the software on an iPad mounted to the bike. It can't be any worse that how we did it last time!

I'd think since the unit is solid state, the only problems you would have would be protecting the unit, and powering it.

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Motion X and Roadbook editor for the iPad looks pretty good to me. Anders also has one...... http://linaracing.com/main/node/26
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Thanks for the reply PFB! I've been pondering the iPad for road book creation since February but I wasn't sure it would work, now I know. I can mount one up on the SE and go book making

Any words of wisdom on creating the RB and tips on using the software?
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