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Old 06-21-2012, 08:41 AM   #571
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Mounted the HDB tower today. Very cool piece of kit!



If you fold down the roadbook-holder mount, it gives you a nice flat surface to mount a GPS, IPAD, 12v Griddle, ect.



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Old 06-21-2012, 09:38 AM   #572
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Yea, RB creation could have its own thread!
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:14 AM   #573
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Mounted the HDB tower today. Very cool piece of kit!



If you fold down the roadbook-holder mount, it gives you a nice flat surface to mount a GPS, IPAD, 12v Griddle, ect.



Griddle hahahaha
How about a baby Weber?
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:31 AM   #574
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Geek's been nagging me for about a week for that, here's a cheap, quick and dirty solution, a bombproof one could be made that wouldn't be able to rotate, but even with the roadbook bolted up with one bolt/side I haven't been able to make it move yet.



A plug and play rally fairing/road book holder. You will sell a shit-house full of these things.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:32 AM   #575
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Griddle hahahaha
How about a baby Weber?
You guys kill me,



Initially it was set up so that it could be bolted up as a mount, that's why the cutout is all on one side and a flat on the other, then a bolt pattern for whatever you were bolting up could added. Didn't like the idea and didn't like the idea of a Ram mt solidly sticking up and getting tattooed by it, I like Geeks idea of the balls off to the sides.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:35 AM   #576
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A plug and play rally fairing/road book holder. You will sell a shit-house full of these things.
I'm already afraid to tell the wife what just the aluminum cost for an injection mold big enough for it. If you guys don't hear from me check the hospitals.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #577
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I'm already afraid to tell the wife what just the aluminum cost for an injection mold big enough for it. If you guys don't hear from me check the hospitals.
I'll drink lotsa beer in the next few weeks, bring you all the cans.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #578
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Thumb niiiice machined bits...

You guys all get an A+ in metalshop from the ADV Tech college in any case!!!
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:44 PM   #579
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I'm already afraid to tell the wife what just the aluminum cost for an injection mold big enough for it. If you guys don't hear from me check the hospitals.

The way my retirement investing is going, I would be better off giving it to you as a venture capital investment
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:58 PM   #580
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Done
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...2#post18961612
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Crap. I just did the same thing here... I've semi-nuked it, but it will take a mod to fully delete the thread...
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:18 PM   #581
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Roadbook vs GPS

Hey: IMHO, it seems like all the effort going into the road book holder mount, and the creation of the road book itself, just to adhere to the old school rally ways, is alot like forcing enduro riders to use an odometer, route sheet and wrist watch.

Then the converstaion changes direction (no pun intended ) to Ipad / android based navigation and apps.

I learned from Rallyconnex (www.rallyconnex.com) appx 8 or 9 years ago about Garmin Chartplotter navigation using the GPS III, or IV, then moving onto the 176 and 276 models. I have created and organized the Pine Barrens 300 and 500 events using this format appx 10 times, ( www.pinebarrens500.org) with appx 100 riders. It works. It seems everyone is trying to reinvent the wheel, Hog Wild said it best, theres lots of ideas but no one has created an event using them or tested thier ideas in a real event, with many riders. At least none that have been sucessful and run mutliple times.

I understand the argument about roadbook only events, but as soon as you allow a gps into the equation, things change.

I've had many discussions with riders entering the PB300 about why don't I use android format blab blab blab. The answer is there's no standard format or app yet. If riders decide to use an unsupported format and get lost or can't load their device, who's fault is it? The organizer or the rider? With Garmin GPS mapsource / chartplotter devices as a standard, it all works. The cost is less or equal to the roadbook holder and brackets being developed but have yet to be proven in competition. This forum has many threads of guys who spent lots of $$$ to enter a Rally with untested one off designs, that failed.

Now I haven't run events out west, but I have entered many in Canada and organized many sucessful GPS only events on the east coast.

Maybe using existing standard (marine and aviation) navigation devices deserves another look. I was watching a show on the Discovery channel , Wild Alaska, I think, and the pilots, in the most remote area in North America were using Garmin 276C GPS's to find their way.

Just saying.


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Old 06-21-2012, 06:45 PM   #582
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All good thoughts. Mind copy pasting here?

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Hey: IMHO, it seems like all the effort going into the road book holder mount, and the creation of the road book itself, just to adhere to the old school rally ways, is alot like forcing enduro riders to use an odometer, route sheet and wrist watch.

Then the converstaion changes direction (no pun intended ) to Ipad / android based navigation and apps.

I learned from Rallyconnex (www.rallyconnex.com) appx 8 or 9 years ago about Garmin Chartplotter navigation using the GPS III, or IV, then moving onto the 176 and 276 models. I have created and organized the Pine Barrens 300 and 500 events using this format appx 10 times, ( www.pinebarrens500.org) with appx 100 riders. It works. It seems everyone is trying to reinvent the wheel, Hog Wild said it best, theres lots of ideas but no one has created an event using them or tested thier ideas in a real event, with many riders. At least none that have been sucessful and run mutliple times.

I understand the argument about roadbook only events, but as soon as you allow a gps into the equation, things change.

I've had many discussions with riders entering the PB300 about why don't I use android format blab blab blab. The answer is there's no standard format or app yet. If riders decide to use an unsupported format and get lost or can't load their device, who's fault is it? The organizer or the rider? With Garmin GPS mapsource / chartplotter devices as a standard, it all works. The cost is less or equal to the roadbook holder and brackets being developed but have yet to be proven in competition. This forum has many threads of guys who spent lots of $$$ to enter a Rally with untested one off designs, that failed.

Now I haven't run events out west, but I have entered many in Canada and organized many sucessful GPS only events on the east coast.

Maybe using existing standard (marine and aviation) navigation devices deserves another look. I was watching a show on the Discovery channel , Wild Alaska, I think, and the pilots, in the most remote area in North America were using Garmin 276C GPS's to find their way.

Just saying.


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Old 06-21-2012, 07:34 PM   #583
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What skill do you need to follow a GPS arrow?????? and a route line on your screen ????
ZERO ________________________________!!!!
Racing by a roadbook ( roll chart ) is a lot of FUN!!!!
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:39 PM   #584
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What skill do you need to follow a GPS arrow?????? and a route line on your screen ????
ZERO ________________________________!!!!
Racing by a roadbook ( roll chart ) is a lot of FUN!!!!
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:14 PM   #585
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what skill do you need to follow a gps arrow?????? And a route line on your screen ????
Zero ________________________________!!!!
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