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Old 07-02-2012, 04:29 AM   #61
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:29 AM   #62
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Friend if mine just got a mail to prepare a quote to make the front and rear tanks. Potential run of 300 units in total..

Ambition?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx6yE2xXToU&hd=1

Heard rumors on Chaleco too, he'll test the bike but his contract states he can run a KTM under the BF banner is he prefers...
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:09 AM   #63
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Heard rumors on Chaleco too, he'll test the bike but his contract states he can run a KTM under the BF banner is he prefers...
wow... If that is the case, it would seem that Chaleco has succeeded in negotiating himself a "best of both worlds" safety clause for his 2013 dakar aspirations. A new ride, with a new and very committed team... but, if the "new" bike does not live up to expectations, he he still has the opportunity to fall back to the proven mount, and run under the B/F team colours.

I always thought it was strange that Chaleco would leave Aprilia for B/F, soley on the premise that they were developing a new bike from scratch (he's been there, done that). Then came the press release of the interim team co-operation with KTM (made sense), and now they release a promising new bike of their own design (kudos!)
This latest news/rumour would appear to be Chaleco's "fall back plan" if the new dream bike is not up to speed in time for january?
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:25 AM   #64
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wow... If that is the case, it would seem that Chaleco has succeeded in negotiating himself a "best of both worlds" safety clause for his 2013 dakar aspirations. A new ride, with a new and very committed team... but, if the "new" bike does not live up to expectations, he he still has the opportunity to fall back to the proven mount, and run under the B/F team colours.

I always thought it was strange that Chaleco would leave Aprilia for B/F, soley on the premise that they were developing a new bike from scratch (he's been there, done that). Then came the press release of the interim team co-operation with KTM (made sense), and now they release a promising new bike of their own design (kudos!)
This latest news/rumour would appear to be Chaleco's "fall back plan" if the new dream bike is not up to speed in time for january?
It would have been wise to run 2 or 3 bikes in a 'stealth' mode during the coming Dakar, if you'd ask me, make it a 3 year plan to reach the top.. This contract option for Chaleco is good for him, but none of us would like to see any new bike project fail in the first year because the results might lack.

On another note, KTM were not very happy having to compete with a 2 cylinder bike, so they have an ongoing lobby/protest to have the Ape's excluded. Had Aprilia made a real effort or had Chaleco continued (BF bike with a twin?) with Aprilia, there could have been a serious protest and rule change if you'd ask me..
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:50 AM   #66
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I always thought it was strange that Chaleco would leave Aprilia for B/F, soley on the premise that they were developing a new bike from scratch (he's been there, done that). ...
Strange? Aprila Rally Team was no more... Ktm already has Coma and Despres, no other official bikes available... At the time was probably his ONLY chance!
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:35 AM   #67
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Strange? Aprila Rally Team was no more...
So the whole Aprilia/Giofil team thing is washed up/closed down (I asked this question to insiders once before... no answer as I recall?)

So no official/Aprilia supported team for Dakar 2013 on the Italian twin cyl. 450's then...???

Seems that every time a new "factory" name throws it's hat in the ring... another one falls off the wagon...
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So the whole Aprilia/Giofil team thing is washed up/closed down (I asked this question to insiders once before... no answer as I recall?)

So no official/Aprilia supported team for Dakar 2013 on the Italian twin cyl. 450's then...???

Seems that every time a new "factory" name throws it's hat in the ring... another one falls off the wagon...
There will be some Aprilia's and some people donating money to that $%&*@ of a Giofil..

He still has some of the bikes, not supported by a truck full of Aprilia owned spares though
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There will be some Aprilia's and some people donating money to that $%&*@ of a Giofil..

He still has some of the bikes, not supported by a truck full of Aprilia owned spares though
Okay... so Chaleco saw the writing on the wall... and thought it better to take his COPEC/Moviestar/Red Bull dollars some other place...?
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wow... If that is the case, it would seem that Chaleco has succeeded in negotiating himself a "best of both worlds" safety clause for his 2013 dakar aspirations. A new ride, with a new and very committed team... but, if the "new" bike does not live up to expectations, he he still has the opportunity to fall back to the proven mount, and run under the B/F team colours.

Kinda reminiscent of the Ron Haslam/Elf Honda setup.
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With only Alain Duclos on a second Giofil Aprilia, clearly the effort looked to be winding down. I also saw it as stale for Chaleco. He risked becoming too much potential that was never realized. I'm glad to see him moving on, even if the effort ultimately falls flat. Better to see him try and fail with a new team and a new bike than to continue struggling with an under-utilized package... though this pains me to say because I do like the Aprilia rally bike.
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Did anyone spot the BF team shot readying for the Baja Spain with TM enduro bikes???
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:03 PM   #74
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the guy with the Scorpion Bay t-shirt is Nicola Dutto hes an Italian Doug Henry or Chris Blais .. an accident rendered him paralyzed but he refuses to quit!





He also races quads and side by sides..



watch for possible news about him too!
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