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Old 07-21-2012, 09:25 AM   #166
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Like the new look.
Thank goodness they changed the signal buttons. I hate mine so much I may sell my bike and buy the new one. :)
Love this pic
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:00 AM   #167
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Sooo...lets not fix any of the real issues, but lets make the plastics "more masculine." really? I would love an 800gs but i refuse to own another bike that has ethanol related fuel tank issues. Sorry bmw....looks like the 800xc wins.

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I have a F800GS in Brazil, where the ethanol content is something around 20%. Before that I had a 1150GSA, a 1200GSA, two F650GS (single cylinder), a XMoto and a K1300R.

Never had and never heard of any problems related to ethanol in any of the BMW bikes running with that crappy fuel.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:14 AM   #168
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I'm 58, with bad knees and a 31" inseam.
Sold the KLR650 with 35" seat height 6 years ago.

My single track days are over, but I still want to explore a forest service or gravel road when I come across it.
My next bike will be a lowered G650GS or a F700GS with panniers and a top box.

Hth, good luck and welcome to ADV.
31 inseam you will be fine with the standard suspension. a low seat might be a good idea. a lower suspension will reduce ground clearance and cargo capacity. i'm 5'6 with 30 inseam and i'm fine with just the lower seat.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #169
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You're 60 years old, good shape. You are probably never going to ride over 100 mph or go on trails. You want
to ride dirt roads (20%) and pavement (80%). Would you get the new F700GS and some luggage or a used
F800GS that already has luggage and some options? Thanks for you thoughts.

I'm 54 y.o., first bike after 15 year hiatus (kids, mom pressure, etc.), I bought a F650GS Twin 13,000 miles ago. My rides fit your percentages very well. I have Jesse hard luggage. Went thru a year of periodic, self induced ego pain about not "manning" up and buying the 800. Over it now, and absolutely love my bike - don't want anything to do with anything bigger. Honestly, wouldn't change a thing. From what I read about the F700 changes - don't want them myself. Not negative changes, just not necessarily positive changes either. Get a 650 or 700 twin - you'll love either.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:12 PM   #170
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I find in interesting that after all the bobble head (frt. brake res.) talk it has gone hard mounted to the lever like the R1200GS's.

Also the new placement for the rear reservoir.

If you want to do that to your bike like I have all you have to do is go to your local bicycle shop and get a seat post reflector bracket (26.8-27.2 I believe it was) and bolt it on:



They usually give 'em away for free 'cause they get one in every bike box...$0.00 !!!

I've been using it since January. Works great and it's tucked in out of the way!

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:40 PM   #171
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I find in interesting that after all the bobble head (frt. brake res.) talk it has gone hard mounted to the lever like the R1200GS's....

Dave
There was lots of big talk about cavitation and air bubbles in the brake fluid...
I wonder if any other part of the design has changed along with the reservoir ...
If the master cylinder is the same might pick up the parts to eliminate the bobble-head...
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:22 AM   #172
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i wanna know where the additonal 4kg's in dry weight came from ...beefed up suspension perhaps ?
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:08 AM   #173
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i wanna know where the additonal 4kg's in dry weight came from ...beefed up suspension perhaps ?
The suspension is the same weak spindly stuff as before.

The additional weight comes mainly from the additional front brake disc, caliper, brake line and maybe the fact that ABS is now standard and has to be included in the specs.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:22 PM   #174
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Thats great for you. I have 2 friends that ride BMW. One 800 and one GSA. The GSA is on its third tank, and the 800 has had bearing issues and cracked gas tank. Now BMW did replace and or fix the issue from my understanding, but still, I dont want more masculine plastics. I want a tank that wont deform and bearings that dont explode.

I love the 800gs, and I love the 800xc...but sadly both have issues. The GS just has more that I wish they fixed for 2013. Makes me sad because I want one.

Joe
Joe, what bike do you currently own?
I had an F650GS twin I racked up 6k miles on during last summer and had zero issues with riding mostly road with some mild fire roads, then replaced it with an F800GS which I have been riding a 50/50 mix of off road on road with the occasional rock rutty stuff and it too has been flawless,

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Old 07-25-2012, 08:26 AM   #175
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I have a 2012 super tenere. In the next 2 years I will be adding a big touring bike for the wife and I,
Isn't the Super Tenere a big 2 up touring bike?...
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:44 AM   #176
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Isn't the Super Tenere a big 2 up touring bike?...
If he's not from the US (sorry in mobile) he could have the what sixfiddy?
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #177
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700 or lowered 800?

ok, I'm thinking I need one of these as an upgrade from my '09 G650GS. My bike is great on the FM roads and occasional fire road but the lack of a 6th gear is a beat down on the highway. I consider myself an 85 road/15 dirt rider and not an aggressive off road rider but I do ride "spirited" on the back farm roads. My current bike fits me very well.

I've tried the Tiger 800 and the engine, shifting and brakes are amazing but I miss the low end torque of the BMW and the handling is so different...I prefer the Beemers. Tried a 1200GS, awesome but more than I need.

Being vertically challenged (30" inseam) I'm leaning toward the F700 with regular suspension and I like all of the upgrades in the new model and the matte gray color. I think it would be a big step up from where I'm at.

Or I could spend more and go with the 800GS in that bitching Kalamata color but I'd need a lowered suspension and I'd probably want a 19" front wheel. I'd love to have spoked tubeless wheels but not sure how much more that would be. I'll check them both out at length but wondering if the lowered 800GS would mean sacrificing a center stand along with the extra cash. I could always do the 800 lowered and mess with the wheels later. I'd change the tires on the 700 add a few extras and be done.

So does the 800 give me room to grow if I get into more offroad riding and longer touring? I must admit I like the styling and color of the 800 better but I'm more concerned with how well it fits me and which bike I'm a better rider on.

Opinions welcome.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:44 PM   #178
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:05 AM   #179
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..................... There are known issues with the bikes and they are not addressing them. That is unacceptable. I have delt with Ducati and their lack of desire to fix anything, and I refuse to do it again..

Long answer to your short question, but if BMW made true fixes I would buy an 800gs tomorrow.

Joe
I've got an S10, K12GT('06), and I"m considering the F700GS. I haven't paid much attention to this bike until two weeks ago when I had a loaner F650GS for 2 days, now I'd like to know more. So I ask: What are the "known issues" that were not addressed??

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Old 07-27-2012, 05:18 AM   #180
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ok, I'm thinking I need one of these as an upgrade from my '09 G650GS. My bike is great on the FM roads and occasional fire road but the lack of a 6th gear is a beat down on the highway. I consider myself an 85 road/15 dirt rider and not an aggressive off road rider but I do ride "spirited" on the back farm roads. My current bike fits me very well.

I've tried the Tiger 800 and the engine, shifting and brakes are amazing but I miss the low end torque of the BMW and the handling is so different...I prefer the Beemers. Tried a 1200GS, awesome but more than I need.

Being vertically challenged (30" inseam) I'm leaning toward the F700 with regular suspension and I like all of the upgrades in the new model and the matte gray color. I think it would be a big step up from where I'm at.
Keep in mind I have never ridden the G650GS or the 800 but from what you wrote it sounds like the 700 would be a better fit.

I think ??? lowering the 800 may take away from the bike's capabilities to some extent. And I'm not sure how the 800 would react to having a 19" wheel up front.

You would be giving up the spoke wheels which may or may not be important to you. I know it is to some. And if you want spoke wheels then I would say you already have a nice bike that you said fits you well. Making the 800 fit you might not be the best way to spend your money.

With that said, if I had known the 700 was coming out I may ??? have waited because I would love to have had the traction control, ESA, and all the turn signal controls on the left.

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