2013 F800GS and F700GS merged threadfest

[GH41]

"I like way you paint your crash bar, what color is it" Rust-Oleum 7277830 metallic matte nickel from Lowes. GH

[HeadinSouth]

Like the new look.
Thank goodness they changed the signal buttons. I hate mine so much I may sell my bike and buy the new one. :)
Love this pic
http://www.mcnews.com.au/2013_Bikes/..._highRes_D.htm

[conrado]

Originally Posted by Geology Rocks

Sooo...lets not fix any of the real issues, but lets make the plastics "more masculine." really? I would love an 800gs but i refuse to own another bike that has ethanol related fuel tank issues. Sorry bmw....looks like the 800xc wins.

Joe

I have a F800GS in Brazil, where the ethanol content is something around 20%. Before that I had a 1150GSA, a 1200GSA, two F650GS (single cylinder), a XMoto and a K1300R.

Never had and never heard of any problems related to ethanol in any of the BMW bikes running with that crappy fuel.

[Dieselpwr]

Originally Posted by bobobob

I'm 58, with bad knees and a 31" inseam.
Sold the KLR650 with 35" seat height 6 years ago.

My single track days are over, but I still want to explore a forest service or gravel road when I come across it.
My next bike will be a lowered G650GS or a F700GS with panniers and a top box.

Hth, good luck and welcome to ADV.

31 inseam you will be fine with the standard suspension. a low seat might be a good idea. a lower suspension will reduce ground clearance and cargo capacity. i'm 5'6 with 30 inseam and i'm fine with just the lower seat.

[Meatn'taters]

Originally Posted by Paladin7429

You're 60 years old, good shape. You are probably never going to ride over 100 mph or go on trails. You want
to ride dirt roads (20%) and pavement (80%). Would you get the new F700GS and some luggage or a used
F800GS that already has luggage and some options? Thanks for you thoughts.

I'm 54 y.o., first bike after 15 year hiatus (kids, mom pressure, etc.), I bought a F650GS Twin 13,000 miles ago. My rides fit your percentages very well. I have Jesse hard luggage. Went thru a year of periodic, self induced ego pain about not "manning" up and buying the 800. Over it now, and absolutely love my bike - don't want anything to do with anything bigger. Honestly, wouldn't change a thing. From what I read about the F700 changes - don't want them myself. Not negative changes, just not necessarily positive changes either. Get a 650 or 700 twin - you'll love either.

[toowheels]

I find in interesting that after all the bobble head (frt. brake res.) talk it has gone hard mounted to the lever like the R1200GS's.

Also the new placement for the rear reservoir.

If you want to do that to your bike like I have all you have to do is go to your local bicycle shop and get a seat post reflector bracket (26.8-27.2 I believe it was) and bolt it on:



They usually give 'em away for free 'cause they get one in every bike box...$0.00 !!!

I've been using it since January. Works great and it's tucked in out of the way!

Dave

[JRWooden]

Originally Posted by toowheels

I find in interesting that after all the bobble head (frt. brake res.) talk it has gone hard mounted to the lever like the R1200GS's....

Dave

There was lots of big talk about cavitation and air bubbles in the brake fluid...
I wonder if any other part of the design has changed along with the reservoir ...
If the master cylinder is the same might pick up the parts to eliminate the bobble-head...

[painkilla]

i wanna know where the additonal 4kg's in dry weight came from ...beefed up suspension perhaps ?

[LukasM]

Originally Posted by painkilla

i wanna know where the additonal 4kg's in dry weight came from ...beefed up suspension perhaps ?

The suspension is the same weak spindly stuff as before.

The additional weight comes mainly from the additional front brake disc, caliper, brake line and maybe the fact that ABS is now standard and has to be included in the specs.

[Geology Rocks]

Originally Posted by conrado

I have a F800GS in Brazil, where the ethanol content is something around 20%. Before that I had a 1150GSA, a 1200GSA, two F650GS (single cylinder), a XMoto and a K1300R.

Never had and never heard of any problems related to ethanol in any of the BMW bikes running with that crappy fuel.

Thats great for you. I have 2 friends that ride BMW. One 800 and one GSA. The GSA is on its third tank, and the 800 has had bearing issues and cracked gas tank. Now BMW did replace and or fix the issue from my understanding, but still, I dont want more masculine plastics. I want a tank that wont deform and bearings that dont explode.

I love the 800gs, and I love the 800xc...but sadly both have issues. The GS just has more that I wish they fixed for 2013. Makes me sad because I want one.

Joe

[Angryrican]

Originally Posted by Geology Rocks

Thats great for you. I have 2 friends that ride BMW. One 800 and one GSA. The GSA is on its third tank, and the 800 has had bearing issues and cracked gas tank. Now BMW did replace and or fix the issue from my understanding, but still, I dont want more masculine plastics. I want a tank that wont deform and bearings that dont explode.

I love the 800gs, and I love the 800xc...but sadly both have issues. The GS just has more that I wish they fixed for 2013. Makes me sad because I want one.

Joe

Joe, what bike do you currently own?
I had an F650GS twin I racked up 6k miles on during last summer and had zero issues with riding mostly road with some mild fire roads, then replaced it with an F800GS which I have been riding a 50/50 mix of off road on road with the occasional rock rutty stuff and it too has been flawless,

cheers,

Frank

[Geology Rocks]

I have a 2012 super tenere. In the next 2 years I will be adding a big touring bike for the wife and I, as well as a a bike like the 800gs. I love the tenere 660 but its not sold here. Because of that i am considering the g650gs sertao or the 800gs, but the fact that BMW is only making cosmetic changes saddens me. There are known issues with the bikes and they are not addressing them. That is unacceptable. I have delt with Ducati and their lack of desire to fix anything, and I refuse to do it again.

I want a fully decked out 800gs/sertao with Knobbies, plates, something I can beat on. My dream is this...

Yamaha/kawi touring rig kitted out for touring, S10 for solo long distance on road and off road stuff like riding the Americas, then the 800gs for something more hardcore like mountain passes and remote solo riding with mainly off road. Before you say anything, I dont want a klr, i have zero desire to ride one for thousands of miles.

Long answer to your short question, but if BMW made true fixes I would buy an 800gs tomorrow.

Joe

[VikB]

Originally Posted by Geology Rocks

I have a 2012 super tenere. In the next 2 years I will be adding a big touring bike for the wife and I,

Isn't the Super Tenere a big 2 up touring bike?...

[JoeDuck]

Originally Posted by VikB

Isn't the Super Tenere a big 2 up touring bike?...

If he's not from the US (sorry in mobile) he could have the what sixfiddy?

[Geology Rocks]

Originally Posted by VikB

Isn't the Super Tenere a big 2 up touring bike?...

Not when compared to the bmw k-gt/gtl bikes. :)

Back to bmw talk

Joe